Transcript Welcome to the 12th GridPP Collaboration Meeting

Welcome to the 12th GridPP
Collaboration Meeting
Introduction
Report on recent meetings of:
• PPARC Oversight Committee
• GridPP Collaboration Board
Dissemination
Steve Lloyd, Chair of the GridPP Collaboration Board
PPARC Oversight
Committee
6th Meeting of PPARC Oversight
Committee – 10th January 2005
Daron Green (Chair) ex-IBM now BT
Paul Jeffries – ex-RAL Director of Oxford e-Science Centre
Andy Parker – Director of Cambridge e-Science Centre (+GridPP & ATLAS)
Mike Whalley – Durham University (Durham Database)
Deborah Miller – PPARC e-Science
Guy Ricket – PPARC Science Committee
Janet Seed – PPARC Particle Physics
(Tony Doyle, Dave Britton, Robin Middleton, Steve Lloyd – GridPP)
Steve Lloyd
GridPP12 Introduction
Slide 2
PPARC Oversight
Committee
Documents Submitted (see website):
•Vision Statement
•Executive Summary
•Project Map
•Resource Report
•LCG Report
•EGEE Report
•Deployment Report
•Middleware/Security/Network Report
•Applications Report
•User Board Report
•Tier-1/A Report
•Tier-2 MoU
•Dissemination Report
•Logbooks
+ Tony presentation of Executive Summary
Steve Lloyd
GridPP12 Introduction
Slide 3
PPARC Oversight
Committee
Summary: Good progress has been made. However...
1. GridPP may be underestimating the difficulty of engaging with each
of the experiment teams. [GridPP should address alignment with each
experiment and document this more fully next time. Probably requires
joint technical summaries of issues arising from Grid use in the UK]
2. Document with a plan to support UK physics analysis community in
2007 is needed. [Comment relating to "good links" with BaBar, but not
yet the LHC experiments. Computing TDRs help here.]
3. Tier-1 allocation policy - define usage policy. i.e. what is the absolute
scale? Are we under/over-committing from PPARC perspective? An
agreement needs to be reached with Janet Seed (and CB – see later).
4. Need to update GridPP2 Risk Register.
Steve Lloyd
GridPP12 Introduction
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PPARC Oversight
Committee
5. OC requires the LCG funding case to be put to them before going to
Science Committee. (This has been done)
6. Get-fit plan on Production Metrics. How do we move from 60% to >90%
and how will this be monitored in the UK.
7. Nail down the metrics - no sensible values yet established. Iterations
are required.
8. Clarify probable direction of GridPP in terms of middleware.
GridPP needs to formally state its position w.r.t. adoption of Glite in order
to feed this back to the core programme. A statement of intent is
sufficient. A formal evaluation may be required but the statement can
come earlier. [Subtext is that OMII is not yet clearly fitting into this
middleware development programme]
Steve Lloyd
GridPP12 Introduction
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PPARC Oversight
Committee
Subsequent Andy Parker Summary to eScience Steering Committee:
"OSC views project as excellently
managed and very successful"
Steve Lloyd
GridPP12 Introduction
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GridPP Collaboration
Board
7th Meeting of GridPP Collaboration Board
12th January 2005
All Groups bar Durham (misunderstanding), Sheffield, Sussex and
Warwick represented
10 Group Leaders, 7 Substitutes (15 in person, 2 on phone)
Deborah Miller, Guy Rickett from PPARC
Tony Doyle , Dave Britton, Steve Lloyd from "The Management"
Talks:
Project Leader's Report (Tony)
Project Manager's Report (Dave)
Tier-2 Report (Steve)
Beyond GridPP2 (Tony)
Steve Lloyd
GridPP12 Introduction
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GridPP Collaboration
Board
Tier-1/A Experiment Shares
(See Dave B for full details)
Share is based on M&O Author fraction x Strategic Weight
M&O Authors
ALICE
ATLAS
CMS
LHCb
BaBar
CDF
D0
H1
MINOS
SNO
ZEUS
Other Exp.
PhenoGrid
UKQCD
Other Th.
Other
2004
6
109
36
45
40
20
20
26
13
9
25
0
7
15
0
0
2005
6
113
47
50
44
20
20
26
13
9
25
0
7
15
0
0
2006
6
113
47
50
44
20
20
26
13
9
25
0
7
15
0
0
2007
2008
6
113
47
50
44
20
20
26
13
9
25
0
7
15
0
0
6
113
47
50
44
20
20
26
13
9
25
0
7
15
0
0
x
~No time dependence
Contentious – long argument!
Upshot is to use Grants Panel
"Form-X" FTE numbers which have
time dependence (SL Action)
Steve Lloyd
Weights
ALICE
ATLAS
CMS
LHCb
BaBar
CDF
D0
H1
MINOS
SNO
ZEUS
Other Exp.
PhenoGrid
UKQCD
Other Thr.
Other
2004
1
1
1
1
3
1
1
1
1
0
1
1
0.3
0.3
0.3
0.1
2005
1
1
1
1
2
0.9
0.9
0.9
1
0.9
0.9
1
0.3
0.3
0.3
0.1
2006
1
1
1
1
1
0.8
0.8
0.8
1
0.8
0.8
1
0.3
0.3
0.3
0.1
2007
1
1
1
1
0.5
0.5
0.5
0.5
1
0.5
0.5
1
0.3
0.3
0.3
0.1
2008
1
1
1
1
0.3
0.3
0.3
0.3
1
0.3
0.3
1
0.3
0.3
0.3
0.1
Takes into account:
• "strategic" BaBar large share
• Guesses time dependence
GridPP12 Introduction
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GridPP Collaboration
Board
Beyond GridPP2
Long discussion (planned) but less contentious
[From the minutes] DB summed up by stating that:
• We should plan to hand over operation of the Grid in about
2007 since, after all, we [the CB] are physicists.
• We should ensure that all the posts directly related to the
Tier-2s and the experiments are divested to the institutes
and the experiments.
• There should then be a committee (CNAP like) that oversees
the Tier-1 hardware purchase and is responsible for a (small
number) of non experiment specific posts - probably just
middleware support.
The Collaboration Board agreed with this summary.
Steve Lloyd
GridPP12 Introduction
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Dissemination
• Meetings - including
– CHEP 2004, Interlaken
– PPARC Grid and network security industry meeting–
Andrew McNab and Dave Kelsey spoke
– Supercomputing 04, Pittsburgh – part of UK e-science
stand
• Particular thanks to Dave Colling and
Roger Jones
• Showed ‘LCG2 Real Time Grid Monitor’
- http://www.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk/escience/projects/demo/index.html
• Let Sarah know if you have a graphical
monitor/demo that would be useful to
show at events
Steve Lloyd
GridPP12 Introduction
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Dissemination
• Journal of Physics G article
– Nearly finished – long process!
– Went out for review Dec/Jan – comments now closed
– Being edited by small group. Aim to submit within next
2 weeks.
• Film
– DVDs to give out – one for each institution, and then
whoever wants one…
• Sarah has moved to Australia
– Still working part-time on GridPP dissemination
– Recruiting an ‘Events Officer’ for UK work:
interviewing 4 people on 10 Feb
Steve Lloyd
GridPP12 Introduction
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