Transcript poeti gela daiauri mTaSi arsebul mwvave problemebze saubrobs

beqa berulava
poeti gela daiauri mTaSi arsebul
mwvave problemebze saubrobs
axali aRqma
`Tu ar iSrome, mTaSi ver iarsebeb~
rubrikis stumari
gela daiauri
`ar vici visaubro, Tu gavCerde... sxvebmac
daweres am problemis Sesaxeb, magram dumilic ar
SemiZlia, imitom, rom es tkivili marto saCemo
araa, saqveynoa. imitom, rom im kuTxezea saubari,
saidanac Semosuli mteri ar Sexebia saqarTvelos.
imitom, rom es kuTxe saRvrispira regionia da ar
SeiZleba xalxisgan daicalos (arada mavanma da
mavanma, iqneb cud metiCrobad CamomarTvas).
Satili eleqtroenergiis gareSea darCenili da
kidev karga xani, ver mieSvelebian Turme. es ki imas
niSnavs, rom adamians haeri gadauketo. daaxloebiT
aseTi datvirTva aqvs eleqtroenegrias
SatilisTvis da piriqiTa xevsureTisTvis.
warmoidgineT xalxi, romlebic lamfis Suqze
cxovroben, male gza daeketebaT... warmoidgineT
bavSvebi, romlebmac am pirobebSi, uSuqobaSi,
ugzoobaSi da sayinuleSi unda icxovron.
p.s. kargia `Tbilisoba~, `mcxeToba~ da aucilebeli,
magram am fonze, sul ar maqvs sadResaswaulo
ganwyoba. iqneba jobdes, xelisufalno, didi
resursebi gamovnaxoT da ucbad movagvaroT es
problema. elementarul sikeTes nu movaklebT
piriqiTa xevsureTs...~
es sityvebi ramdenime dRis win sakuTar
Facebookgverdze mucos xeobaSi gazrdilma poetma
gela daiaurma gamoaqveyna, rasac uamravi adamiani
gamoexmaura. gTavazobT masTan intervius:
_ Fa­ce­bo­ok-ze Tqvens sta­tuss sak­ma­od di­di ga­mox­ma­
u­re­ba moh­yva. um­Tav­re­sad ri­Taa gan­pi­ro­be­bu­li mTis
sof­le­bis mo­sax­le­o­bis­gan dac­lis pro­ce­si?
_ zo­ga­dad ko­men­ta­rebs iS­vi­a­Tad vkiT­xu­lob, mag­
ram ram­de­ni­me ma­inc vna­xe da erT-er­Ti gan­sa­kuT­re­biT
da­ma­max­sov­rda, rad­gan ga­ma­o­ca ki­dec. ko­men­tar­Si naT­
qva­mi iyo, rom sof­leb­Si eleq­tro­fi­ka­ci­is pro­ce­
si daw­ye­bu­lia, is yve­la qar­Tul so­fels Se­e­xe­ba
eta­pob­ri­vad da al­baT xev­su­reT­sac eS­ve­le­ba. me ki
vfiq­rob, rom pir­vel rig­Si swo­red saz­Rvris­pi­ra
sof­lebs un­da miv­xe­doT da iq mcxov­reb xalxs Se­
vum­su­bu­qoT pi­ro­be­bi.
sof­le­bi mxo­lod mTeb­Si ki ara, bar­Sic ca­ri­el­de­ba,
mo­sax­le­o­ba qa­laq­Si mi­dis da es pro­ce­si ar mik­virs. pir­
vel rig­Si, ele­men­ta­ru­li kom­for­tis Se­saq­mne­lad, al­baT
swo­red eleq­tro­e­ner­gi­is uz­run­vel­yo­faa sa­Wi­ro. es im­
de­nad ele­men­ta­ru­lia, rom 21-e sa­u­ku­ne­Si al­baT arc un­da
iyos ama­ze sa­u­ba­ri. mo­sax­le­o­bis um­rav­le­so­bac yve­la­ze
me­tad swo­red amas iT­xovs. mag­ram sam­wu­xa­rod ar­se­bobs
sof­le­bi, rom­le­bic eleq­tro­e­ner­gi­is ga­re­Sea dar­Ce­ni­li,
ma­ga­li­Tad: ar­do­ti, ar­Wi­lo, xa­xa­bo... am bo­lo or so­fel­Si
sa­man­qa­no gzac ki ar aris, mag­ram xal­xi ma­inc cxov­robs.
_ dRes er­Tgvar ten­den­ci­ad iq­ca Tqma, rom „Ta­vi­
suf­le­ba mxo­lod mTeb­Sia“, mTe­bis siy­va­ru­lis afi­
Si­re­ba ki bev­ris­Tvis Ta­vi­suf­le­bis siy­va­rul­Ta­naa
ga­i­gi­ve­bu­li. Tum­ca saq­me saq­me­ze rom mid­ges, al­baT
co­ta Tu gac­vlis qa­la­qur cxov­re­bas mTa­Si cxov­re­
bis sa­nac­vlod. ro­gor fiq­rob, ri­Taa ga­mow­ve­u­li es
ze­da­pi­ru­li aso­ci­a­ci­e­bi?
_ (ici­nis) Ce­mi az­riT, qa­la­qi­dan mTa­Si asu­li ada­mi­
a­ni sak­ma­od mka­fi­od grZnobs kon­trasts da mi­u­xe­da­vad
imi­sa, rom Ta­vi­suf­le­ba qa­laq­Sic aris, mTa­Si uf­ro naT­
lad ig­rZno­ba. mag­ram am Ta­vi­suf­le­bis ukan Za­li­an di­di
Sro­ma da ja­fa devs. aTi we­li vmu­Sa­ob­di sof­lis sko­la­Si
da vi­ci, ra pi­ro­beb­Si uwevs xalxs yof­na, is sta­tu­sic
swo­red am faq­tor­ma da­ma­we­ri­na. ro­ca yo­vel­dRe iq xar,
sa­ku­Tar Tav­ze ga­mos­cdi kom­for­tis de­fi­cits, co­ta
Zne­lia Ta­vi­suf­le­ba­ze ila­pa­ra­ko.
_ pi­ra­dad Sen­Tvis ras­Tan aso­cir­de­ba mTa­Si cxov­
re­ba?
_ pir­vel rig­Si Za­li­an mZi­me, yo­vel­dRi­ur Sro­mas­Tan,
rad­gan Tu ar iS­ro­me, iq ub­ra­lod ver iar­se­beb. ase­ve sa­
ku­Ta­ri Ta­vis Sec­no­ba­sa da mar­to­o­bas­Ta­nac aso­cir­de­ba,
fiq­reb­Tan gan­mar­to­e­bis sa­si­a­mov­no pro­ces­Tan.
_ aR­niS­ne, rom sof­le­bi mo­sax­le­o­bis­gan bar­Sic
ic­le­ba. gaqvs ime­di, rom am pro­ce­sis ukuq­ce­va an Se­
Ce­re­ba Se­saZ­le­be­lia?
versianiusi
ruseTidan qarTuli filmebis
arqivis gadmosatanad minimum,
6 welia saWiro
noembris bolomde, qarTuli kinoarqivis pirvel nawils saqarTveloSi ruseTidan Camoitanen.
kulturis saministroSi acxadeben, rom filmebis pirveli
nawili ukve mzad aris Camosatanad, momdevno nawilis gadmocemis
dro ki, jerjerobiT, gansazRvruli ar aris. uwyebis informaciiT,
sruli kinoarqivis gadmotanas, minimum, 6 weli dasWirdeba.
`es CvenTvis iqneba nimuSi, rogori iqneba danarCeni memkvidreoba. pirvel etapze rac iyo gawerili, (saubaria mixeil
Wiaurelis, nuca RoRoberiZis da leo esakias filmebze) 4 filmi Camova noemberSi. Semdeg ki, sxvadasxva
raodenobis filmebi Camova~, _ acxadebs kulturis saministros kinomimarTulebis xelmZRvaneli nana doliZe.
kulturis saministroSi ruseTidan qarTuli kinoarqivis gadmotanis faqts umniSvnelovanes nabijad afaseben
da mTavrobis rolze saubroben:
`es aris istoriuli mniSvnelobis faqti. vfiqrob, es imdenad Rirebuli da mniSvnelovani sakiTxia, romelic saukuneSi erTxel SeiZleba moxdes. rom ara saxelmwifos neba, raime kerZo iniciativiT amis gakeTeba
SeuZlebeli iqneboda. garkveul periodebSi iyo amaze muSaoba, Tumca mxolod 2014 wlidan gaxda SesaZlebeli
realurad am proeqtis dawyeba. rom ara mTavrobis mxardaWera, namdvilad ar ganxorcieldeboda es proeqti~.
qarTuli filmebis arqivis ruseTidan saqarTveloSi dabrunebis procesis dawyebis Sesaxeb, premier-ministris
specialuri warmomadgenlis ruseTTan urTierTobis sakiTxebSi zurab abaSiZis da ruseTis sagareo saqmeTa
ministr grigori karasinis Sexvedris Semdeg gaxda cnobili
`pia~
qobuleTSi avarias
erTi piri emsxverpla
avtosagzao SemTxvevis Sedegad, qobuleTSi erTi adamiani daiRupa.
SemTxveva qobuleTi-baTumis centralur saavtomobilo magistralze moxda. msubuqi avtomobili xes Seejaxa.
jerjerobiT ar aris cnobili, ra gaxda avtosagzao SemTxvevis mizezi.
Sss-s pressamsaxurSi acxadeben, rom faqtTan dakavSirebiT, gamoZieba sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsis 276-e muxlis
me-5 nawiliT mimdinareobs, rac transportis moZraobis
usafrTxoebis, an eqsploataciis wesis darRvevas gulisxmobs, ramac adamianis sicocxlis mospoba gamoiwvia.
`pia~
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_ mes­mis, sa­xel­mwi­fos uWirs. ro­ca po­lo­neT­Si vi­
ya­vi, wa­vaw­ydi aseT ra­Ra­cas _ erT kacs hyav­da cxva­ri,
aRar max­sovs xu­Ta­si Tu aTa­si, mag­ram sak­ma­od. am kac­Tan
sa­xel­mwi­fos xel­Sek­ru­le­ba hqon­da ga­for­me­bu­li da
Tve­Si da­ax­lo­e­biT xu­Ti aTa­si do­la­ris ode­no­bis xel­
fass ux­di­da mxo­lod ima­Si, rom am kacs mTa­Si ec­xov­ra
da cxvre­bis­Tvis mo­ev­lo.
Cven Sem­Txve­va­Si mes­mis, rom sa­xel­mwi­fo ga­ci­le­biT
sus­tia, mag­ram da­ax­lo­e­biT msgav­si prog­ra­me­bi rom ar­
se­bob­des, di­di wa­xa­li­se­ba iq­ne­bo­da me­ur­ne­o­bi­saT­vis.
_ al­baT bevr so­fel­Si yo­fil­xar. Se­giZ­lia ga­ix­se­
no da aR­mi­we­ro is so­fe­li, ro­me­lic yve­la­ze sev­di­a­
nad da­ga­max­sov­rda?
_ Sa­ti­lis sko­la­Si vmu­Sa­ob­di, mag­ram ma­nam­de mu­co­Si
vcxov­rob­di. sev­di­a­nia is so­fe­li, ro­mel­Sic, gax­sovs,
xal­xi cxov­rob­da, mag­ram me­re xe­dav, ga­u­ka­cu­re­bu­lia.
_ mTa­Si ar­se­bu­li tra­di­ci­e­bi­dan, Sen­Tvis yve­la­ze
pa­ti­vi­sa­ce­mi ro­me­lia?
_ stu­mar-mas­pin­Zlo­ba. stu­mar­Tmoy­va­re­o­ba, stum­ris
mi­Re­bis we­si, yve­la­ze me­tad es da­ma­max­sov­rda bav­Svo­
bi­da­nac. max­sovs, Cems so­fel­Si sa­mi-oT­xi oja­xi iyo,
ro­me­lic er­Tma­neTs ima­Si ejib­re­bo­da, vin met stu­mars
mi­i­Reb­da. er­Tma­ne­Tis siy­va­ru­lic Zli­e­ri iyo, ur­Ti­
er­To­bac... qa­laqs dRes al­baT es tra­di­cia co­ta­Ti
Se­mo­ak­lda.
_ mTi­sa da qa­laq­Si mac­xov­re­bel axal­gaz­rdebs So­
ris ra Tval­Si­sa­ce­mi gan­sxva­ve­baa?
_ mTa­Si gaz­rdi­li bav­Sve­bi ra­Rac­na­i­rad uf­ro Ca­
fiq­re­bu­le­bi ari­an. uk­ve ga­moc­di­li aqvT Sro­mas­Tan ga­
i­gi­ve­bu­li cxov­re­ba, ra­mac TiT­qos uf­ro da­a­din­ja. uf­
ro­se­bis pa­ti­vis­ce­mac me­tad aqvT, rad­gan isi­ni sxva­na­ir
ga­re­mo­Si iz­rde­bi­an. bar­Si uam­rav axal­gaz­rdas vic­nob,
Za­li­an kar­ge­bi ari­an, mag­ram Tu pa­ra­lels ga­vav­lebT,
sa­ku­Ta­ri Ta­vis, saq­ci­e­lis kon­tro­li uf­ro uWirT.
_ op­ti­mis­tu­rad xar gan­wyo­bi­li da mi­gaC­nia, rom
ax­lo mo­ma­val­Si Se­saZ­le­be­lia ra­me sa­si­ke­Tod Se­ic­
va­los mTis­Tvis?
_ Ce­mi er­Ti me­go­ba­ri xSi­rad am­bobs: „me ar miy­vars
xel­Caq­ne­u­li qar­Tve­li“. mec am qvey­nis Svi­li var da ime­di
rom ar mqon­des, al­baT arc cxov­re­bis sur­vi­li meq­ne­bo­
da. ime­di yo­vel­Tvis maqvs da op­ti­mis­tu­ri gan­wyo­bis Se­
nar­Cu­ne­ba­sac vcdi­lob. min­da nak­le­bi cru da­pi­re­ba iyos.
ma­ga­li­Tad, dRes ga­vi­ge, rom no­em­bris bo­los ram­de­ni­me
so­fel­Si he­si amu­Sav­de­ba. ar min­da es iyos tyu­i­li. xva­
lin­de­li dRis ime­di maqvs, mag­ram mxo­lod da­pi­re­beb­ze
da imed­ze me­ti sWir­de­ba Cvens qve­ya­nas.
_ Zli­e­ri so­fe­li ra gav­le­nas mo­ax­dens qvey­nis
gan­vi­Ta­re­ba­ze?
_ max­sovs, 90-ia­ni wle­bis mZi­me pe­ri­od­Si, ro­ca Tbi­
lis­Si da zo­ga­dad, qa­la­qeb­Si Za­li­an ga­Wir­da cxov­re­ba,
xal­xi mTa­Si wa­mo­vi­da (me ma­Sin mTa­Si vcxov­rob­di). max­
sovs, ro­gor ga­iv­so mTa da sak­ve­bi­Tac aqe­dan ex­ma­re­bod­
nen bars, ro­mel­sac uWir­da... vfiq­rob, ro­ca so­fel­Si
vi­Ta­re­ba ga­um­jo­bes­de­ba, iqi­dan uk­ve bar­sac Za­li­an di­di
dax­ma­re­ba Se­mo­u­va da jam­Si, qve­ya­na­Si ar­se­bu­li pi­ro­be­
bic ga­um­jo­bes­de­ba.
_ ax­lo mo­ma­val­Si po­e­zi­is sa­Ra­mos ga­mar­Tvas xom
ar geg­mav, ro­me­lic gar­kve­ul­wi­lad da­kav­Si­re­bu­li
iq­ne­ba mTis Te­ma­ti­kas­Tan, prob­le­meb­Tan, iqa­ur ga­re­
mo­sa da pi­ro­beb­Tan?
_ sxva­Ta So­ris, ar mi­fiq­ria ama­ze, Tum­ca Za­li­an kar­gi
ide­aa da Se­iZ­le­ba gan­va­xor­ci­e­lo ki­dec, gmad­lob, rom
ga­mi­zi­a­re.