Transcript Why the Wires? The short answer is physics, but to begin at the beginning…
Slide 1
Why the Wires?
The short answer is physics, but to begin at the
beginning…
Slide 2
Climate change, polluted air and sustainability are driving development of
not just low carbon, but zero carbon buses.
For over a 100 years trolleybuses have been
emitting nothing. Right now, there are
40,000+ in service worldwide.
Slide 3
Tried and tested, evolving and improving, trolleybuses are heavy load carriers, essential
in the world’s biggest and most polluted cities – Mexico City, Shanghai, Sao Paulo etc.
Slide 4
Some cities see them as essential
to a high quality of life,
in Zurich, Salzburg and
Lyon for example.
Slide 5
And some cities couldn’t function without them,
Moscow, San Francisco and Beijing etc.
Slide 6
So why are trolleybuses not sufficiently considered?
Slide 7
The imperative to avoid climate change has assumed a need for
‘new’ technological answers.
The last decade has seen trials, tribulations and hybrids.
In the UK the context is state subsidy, short-termism and
a certain aversion to overhead wires.
Slide 8
These ‘answers’ are like trolleybuses, but with the booms taken off
and various power stations added on.
Fuel cell buses are the most complex, hybrids add a polluting diesel generator
and battery buses try to store enough electricity.
None of these solutions can ever be as efficient as
direct power trolleybuses.
Slide 9
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Having an onboard power station takes space and adds weight.
Hybrids still emit carcinogenic pollutants.
Fuel cells double convert fuel to produce electricity.
Battery buses hit physical limits to stay in service and
need trolleybus like infrastructures to keep going.
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So far, no zero emission bus has been invented that can serve
mainline, heavy duty routes like a trolleybus can.
Slide 10
Only a few more years, and maybe superbatteries will be here.
Plus a bit more subsidy and don’t worry about battery replacement costs every
four years – roughly doubling bus capital costs every 12 years.
Meanwhile, trolleybuses last twice as long.
Slide 11
The real question is how serious are we about climate change?
Or air pollution that kills?
We can pretend the physical chemistry of batteries will one day triple in power,
or that catalytic converters on hybrids will work in service,
or that platinum will suddenly be plentiful.
Or we can save lives now with overhead wires.
Slide 12
Nobody is suggesting trolleybuses should go everywhere.
The future is surely electric, with niches for battery buses, but real
routes need real trolleybuses.
Much of the basic technology is shared. And there’s opportunities for
better infrastructure efficiencies both for charging and reducing the
extent of overhead.
Hybrids are an intermediate technology, coming before full electric
buses, but the time is approaching when pollution tolerance and the
physical limits of chemistry need to be addressed.
Slide 13
As Luc Tremblay of STM Montreal has said, we’re going to try all the alternative
fuels and battery systems and then, to achieve zero emissions, we’ll order 200
trolleybuses in 2020.
Slide 14
Diesel v Hybrid v Trolleybus net emissions,
based on conversion of 50% of London bus fleet
(v. trolleybus)
(v. trolleybus)
(v. diesel)
(v. diesel)
Slide 15
Using diesels is not viable long term
Fuel economy and pollution saving claims for hybrids are proving false
The promise of autonomous electric buses remains ‘just around the corner’
Only the trolleybus can deliver zero pollution at street level reliably
Pollution kills, overhead wires do not
A fixed infrastructure is appreciated as permanent, high quality transport
Slide 16
• For more, see tbus.org.uk
Quiet and zero emission
Suitable for pedestrianised areas
Acceleration means 9 not 10 buses
No refuelling
Low maintenance
Proven 25 year service life
Whole life costing pays for overhead
Demonstrated customer preference
Why the Wires?
The short answer is physics, but to begin at the
beginning…
Slide 2
Climate change, polluted air and sustainability are driving development of
not just low carbon, but zero carbon buses.
For over a 100 years trolleybuses have been
emitting nothing. Right now, there are
40,000+ in service worldwide.
Slide 3
Tried and tested, evolving and improving, trolleybuses are heavy load carriers, essential
in the world’s biggest and most polluted cities – Mexico City, Shanghai, Sao Paulo etc.
Slide 4
Some cities see them as essential
to a high quality of life,
in Zurich, Salzburg and
Lyon for example.
Slide 5
And some cities couldn’t function without them,
Moscow, San Francisco and Beijing etc.
Slide 6
So why are trolleybuses not sufficiently considered?
Slide 7
The imperative to avoid climate change has assumed a need for
‘new’ technological answers.
The last decade has seen trials, tribulations and hybrids.
In the UK the context is state subsidy, short-termism and
a certain aversion to overhead wires.
Slide 8
These ‘answers’ are like trolleybuses, but with the booms taken off
and various power stations added on.
Fuel cell buses are the most complex, hybrids add a polluting diesel generator
and battery buses try to store enough electricity.
None of these solutions can ever be as efficient as
direct power trolleybuses.
Slide 9
•
•
•
•
•
Having an onboard power station takes space and adds weight.
Hybrids still emit carcinogenic pollutants.
Fuel cells double convert fuel to produce electricity.
Battery buses hit physical limits to stay in service and
need trolleybus like infrastructures to keep going.
•
•
So far, no zero emission bus has been invented that can serve
mainline, heavy duty routes like a trolleybus can.
Slide 10
Only a few more years, and maybe superbatteries will be here.
Plus a bit more subsidy and don’t worry about battery replacement costs every
four years – roughly doubling bus capital costs every 12 years.
Meanwhile, trolleybuses last twice as long.
Slide 11
The real question is how serious are we about climate change?
Or air pollution that kills?
We can pretend the physical chemistry of batteries will one day triple in power,
or that catalytic converters on hybrids will work in service,
or that platinum will suddenly be plentiful.
Or we can save lives now with overhead wires.
Slide 12
Nobody is suggesting trolleybuses should go everywhere.
The future is surely electric, with niches for battery buses, but real
routes need real trolleybuses.
Much of the basic technology is shared. And there’s opportunities for
better infrastructure efficiencies both for charging and reducing the
extent of overhead.
Hybrids are an intermediate technology, coming before full electric
buses, but the time is approaching when pollution tolerance and the
physical limits of chemistry need to be addressed.
Slide 13
As Luc Tremblay of STM Montreal has said, we’re going to try all the alternative
fuels and battery systems and then, to achieve zero emissions, we’ll order 200
trolleybuses in 2020.
Slide 14
Diesel v Hybrid v Trolleybus net emissions,
based on conversion of 50% of London bus fleet
(v. trolleybus)
(v. trolleybus)
(v. diesel)
(v. diesel)
Slide 15
Using diesels is not viable long term
Fuel economy and pollution saving claims for hybrids are proving false
The promise of autonomous electric buses remains ‘just around the corner’
Only the trolleybus can deliver zero pollution at street level reliably
Pollution kills, overhead wires do not
A fixed infrastructure is appreciated as permanent, high quality transport
Slide 16
• For more, see tbus.org.uk
Quiet and zero emission
Suitable for pedestrianised areas
Acceleration means 9 not 10 buses
No refuelling
Low maintenance
Proven 25 year service life
Whole life costing pays for overhead
Demonstrated customer preference