Transcript Have your say? - Walsall Council

Social Care and Inclusion
about charging
Have your say?
Charging for services
Your thoughts?
Should the Council decide who should and
shouldn’t pay for community social care
services?
Government wants councils to make people pay
towards the community social services they have.
The new laws gives councils the right to make
choices whether to charge for these services.
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If we don’t charge we need to find the
money from somewhere else, how
can we do this?
There are different ways of paying for
services, paying one payment / what
you have. Which one will work better
for you?
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Your thoughts?
Council must allow you money to help
you live with your disability before
they charge you. All of the money or
half the amount.
Guidance lets us take into account
your partners money. Should we
include this?
Your thoughts?
The Care Act says we should look at
paying the maximum charge. What do
you think?
If someone has enough money to
pay for all their services should
they?
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Your thoughts?
Disability related expenditure
Council must make sure you have
enough money to live before they
charge you. After being assessed
should everyone pay the same
amount
Disability
related
expenditure
Financial Assessments
When looking at what you pay towards care and
support, someone from the council visits you at
home looks at what money you have coming in
and paying out. Care Act allows councils to let
people assess themselves and send back by
post or computer. Is this something the council
should offer people.
Your thoughts?
Some people have a direct payment, so
the person or someone on their behalf is
given the money to choose care and
support. Council can take this money out
before it is paid to the person.
Should people have a direct payment
taken out before they get their money?
Your thoughts?
Other charging
People who live in extra care housing pay
money for the services they have.
Council are looking at having one charging
policy for all community based social services.
Should people living in extra care housing pay
the same as others?
Your thoughts?
Care Act starts April 2015, carers will be treated
the same way as the people they care for.
Carers can have a assessment and if they have
eligible needs they can be charged.
Cabinet recognise the valuable contribution
carers make to support vulnerable people, and
thinking they may not charge for providing this
support.
Should the council offer support to carers without
charging them?
Should carers be charged for all or some services
Your thoughts?
Your thoughts?
Some people have enough money to pay
for their own care (self funders) Care Act
says if people can afford to pay for their
care and support. They can ask the council
to arrange their care on their behalf.
Preventative services
Are not always free. Care Act states
that services such as reablement or
minor aid and adaptation must be
provided free.
Walsall council is thinking about charging ∙
for community alarm ( maintenance
and response combined) people over 80 get
this free which is seen as not being fare
People who are entitled to receive social care
services this would depend on a assessment
whether they can afford to pay.
•Personal support after 6 weeks of reablement
for those not eligible.
•We could charge for other preventative social
services.
Your thoughts?
Aids and minor adaptations
Must be provided free of charge , councils could
charge for equipment that costs over £1000
Should all equipment be free for all?
Should the council look at charging
for this type of equipment?
Your thoughts?
What next?
Information from these meetings will be shared with everyone that it may
affect. Cabinet will receive the report of what people said.
Another meeting in early 2015