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THE 12 DECISIVE BATTLES OF THE THREE INDO-CHINA WARS THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY presented by DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHTMG © DAVE SABBEN ON CREATIVE CONTENT 09 – Lam Son 719 Feb - Apr 1971 BACKGROUND South Vietnam was a different place in 1971 than it had been in the 60s – and so was Washington. In a general view: 1968 – Khe Sanh, Tet, the battle for Hue Citadel, then My Lai; the US public turns against the war and Johnson hands over to Nixon, yet the North starts to talk about Talks; THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION 1969 – several operations into A Shau WAS valley PREPARED BY including the Hamburger Hill debacle; Paris Peace Talks and “Vietnamization” start,DAVE as do SABBEN WHOinvade RETAINS COPYRIGHT © US and Allied forces withdrawals; NVA ON CREATIVE CONTENT Laos & Cambodia – form Khmer Rouge; 1970 – Ops & secret bombing in Cambodia, where pro-US Lon Nol has taken over after coup; Anti-war demonstrations across USA, including the Kent State shootings; Nixon has his options restricted by Congress; 1971 – US forces mostly on defensive – few offensive operations; ANZACs start withdrawals; US forces down from 550k to less than 140k. 2 BACKGROUND South Vietnam was a different place in 1971 than it had been in the 60s – and so was Washington: In a general view: 1968 Khe Sanh proved that the NVA couldn’t win a conventional battle. 20k men with artillery support didn’t even penetrate the perimeter. 1968 – Khe Sanh, Tet, the battle for Hue Tet proved that the VC couldn’t win a guerrilla Citadel, then My Lai; the US public turns war. After Tet, they were a spent force and against the war and Johnson hands over to they never recovered. Nixon, yet the North starts to talk about Talks; THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BYCitadel was taken by 10k NVA troops Hue 1969 – the several operations into A Shau from about 100 ARVN - and were only able to valley including the Hamburger Hill debacle; DAVE SABBEN Paris Peace Talks and “Vietnamization” start, COPYRIGHT © hold it for three weeks. WHO RETAINS as do US and Allied forces withdrawals; ON CREATIVE The CONTENT North claimed that Khe Sanh was a decoy for Tet but the NVA only committed 30k troops 1970 – Operations across the Cambodian (all the rest were VC) - with 20K at Khe Sanh border, where Lon Nol has taken over; Antiand 10k at Hue, which was the decoy? war demonstrations across USA, including the Kent State shootings; Nixon has his The real loss in 1968 was of the US public’s options restricted by Congress; confidence in the ability of the Allied forces to win the war. This then transferred to the US 1971 – US forces mostly on defensive – government and senior military not as a lack few offensive operations; ANZACs start of ability but of a lack of willingness withdrawals; US forces down from 550k to 3 to do what it would take to win it. less than 140k. 1969 1968 The end result of the A Shau operations was that the US announced its intention to withdraw from Viet Nam. The whole rest of the war hinged ONLY upon this decision. Khe Sanh proved that the NVA couldn’t win a conventional battle. 20k men with artillery support didn’t even penetrate the perimeter. Tet proved that the VC couldn’t win a guerrilla In order to withdraw, two things needed to war. After Tet, they were a spent force and happen – Vietnamization and Pacification. they never recovered. THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BYCitadel was taken by 10k NVA troops VIETNAMIZATION Hue As US and Allied forces were removed, the SABBEN from about 100 ARVN - and were only able to DAVE ARVN needed to be increased - and this in the hold it for three weeks. WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © face of increased numbers of NVA in the ON CREATIVE CONTENT South to replace VC losses in Tet 1968. The The North claimed that Khe Sanh was a decoy fighting had to be handed over to the ARVN. for Tet but the NVA only committed 30k troops (all the rest were VC) - with 20K at Khe Sanh PACIFICATION and 10k at Hue, which was the decoy? To reduce the scale of operations required, a campaign was needed to capitalise on the VC The real loss in 1968 was of the US public’s losses during Tet – particularly in the rural confidence in the ability of the Allied forces to areas. More regions brought under win the war. This then transferred to the US Government control would mean fewer ARVN government and senior military not as a lack troops required to keep government control in of ability but of a lack of willingness 4 those areas. to do what it would take to win it. 1969 The end result of the A Shau operations was that the US announced its intention to withdraw from Viet Nam. The whole rest of the war hinged ONLY upon this decision. 1970 VIETNAMIZATION In June 1968 (after Tet) the South had brought in “general mobilisation” – military service was obligatory for all males 16 to 50. From 643k in 1968 to over 1 million in 1971. In order to withdraw, two things needed to As the US and Allies wound down, all their happen – Vietnamization and Pacification. equipment was handed to the ARVN. THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION But the ARVN was already corrupt and infiltrated. Expansion did not alter these flaws. WAS PREPARED BY VIETNAMIZATION Besides, desertion rates were huge, and the As US and Allied forces were removed, the SABBEN DAVE ARVN needed to be increased - and this in the new units needed battles to prove themselves WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © and become self-confident and self-reliant. face of increased numbers of NVA in the ON CREATIVE CONTENT South to replace VC losses in Tet 1968. The PACIFICATION 1 2 fighting had to be handed over to the ARVN. The reduced influence after Tet resulted After Tet 68,VC huge volumes of captured VCin more villages and hamlets under documentation became thecoming basis of the PACIFICATION government control. variously A massivedescribed clearing and “Phoenix Program”, as To reduce the scale of operations required, a building program launched to the hunt for VCwas sympathisers orrebuild just campaign was needed to capitalise on the VC homes and “payback”. Byre-establish early 1970, infrastructure. some 150k had losses during Tet – particularly in the rural By 1971, it is estimated been arrested or killed. It was and remains areas. More regions brought under thatbeing only 5% of theofSVN controversial, accused devolving into Government control would mean fewer ARVN population remained under those in power ensuring troops required to keep government control in 5 Communist they stayed incontrol. power. those areas. SIDETRACK: CAMBODIA Up to 1970, Cambodia had been ruled by Prince Norodom Sihanouk. Nominally neutral, he shifted his allegiance to suit his own perception of Cambodia’s needs. While he saw the North winning, he supported them and permitted their presence in Cambodia. By 1969, he saw the North losing and switched allegiance to the South and the US. THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION Border violations, hitherto expressly forbidden, WAS PREPARED BY were approved. Nixon ordered B-52 strikes against NVA sanctuaries. The NVA reaction DAVE SABBEN was to confront Sihanouk and seek shelter WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © deeper inside Cambodia. ON CREATIVE CONTENT The Khmer Rouge was Cambodia’s equivalent of SVN’s VC, but they were also rivals of the NVA – at least until the NVA turned against Sihanouk. The two then joined forces against the Cambodian Army. In 1970, Sihanouk left the country and was deposed by pro-US Marshal Lon Nol (the coup was commonly thought to be CIA backed). After this, the Khmer Rouge grew in power. 6 1969-70 VIET NAM / CAMBODIA Intelligence started to collect evidence that the NVA were gathering in Cambodia, ready to advance on Saigon when the US left. With the new Cambodian support, the US and ARVN took advantage of the opportunity – a joint US/ARVN incursion into Cambodia would serve two purposes: THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY 1)It would disrupt NVA plans, and 2) it would boost the ARVN’s confidence. DAVE SABBEN In April, © May & June of 1970, there were two WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT major US/ARVN operations into Cambodia – ON CREATIVE CONTENT one at “Parrot’s Beak” and the other at “Fish Hook”. 32,000 troops. In both cases, the NVA dispersed and did not defend their positions. In both cases, huge caches of installations and supplies were found, including “The City” 7 at “Fish Hook”. 1969-70 WASHINGTON When these new Operations were announced, there was an instant crisis in Washington. Renewed anti-war demonstrations led to civil disobedience. On 4 May 1970, four students were shot dead THIS at Kent State (see separate slide at SLIDE end). AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY On 24 June 1970, Congress repealedDAVE the SABBEN 1964 Gulf Of Tonkin Resolution, WHO stopping RETAINS COPYRIGHT © Nixon’s power to commit forces without ON CREATIVE CONTENT Congress approval. Nixon’s response to this was to accelerate the rate of US withdrawals. 8 1971 PATHET LAO VIET NAM / LAOS Because the NVA chose not to fight, the two incursions into Cambodian did not prove the ARVN’s capability. Instead, the NVA were moved into Laos, onto the Viet Nam border opposite I Corps. With the new Washington orders, Nixon could not invade Laos. He therefore approved US THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION support for a wholly-ARVN incursion into WAS PREPARED BY Laos, timed for the new year (1971). DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © OPERATION DEWEY CANYON II ON CREATIVE CONTENT 30 January – 7 February 1971 1) US forces would re-open Khe Sanh as a helicopter base; 2) US forces would clear from Khe Sanh to the border (Lao Bao), set up FSBs along the border and provide air cover; 3) ARVN would enter Laos from Lao Bao; 4) No US troops were to cross the border – at least, on the ground; 5) US to remain in SVN to protect 9 against any counter attack. 1971 WASHINGTON From 19 to 26 April 1971, Viet Vets Against the War demonstrated in Washington. 12 November 1971 – Nixon advised 45,000 more troops would be pulled out, bringing the total withdrawn to 139,000. THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION ANZAC WAS PREPARED BY On 18 August 1971 it was announced that all ANZAC combat forces would be out ofDAVE Viet SABBEN Nam by the end of 1971.WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT 10 THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ENOUGH OF THE BACKGROUND… ON CREATIVE CONTENT Operation Lam Son 719 was a pre-emptive thrust from 8 February to 6 April 1971 into Laos along the axis of Route 9 (which we saw when we looked at the DMZ went from Dong Ha to Lao Bao in I Corps). It was not named after a city or a location or even a region – it was named after a Vietnamese victory over the Chinese in the 15th Century. 11 THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT The Xe Pon River valley ran East to West from Lao Bao on the border to Tchepone some 25 Km away. Route 9 followed the river. The valley crossed most of the Ho Chi Minh Trails heading from North Vietnam to the South. The valley was sparsely populated. The hills bordering the valley were steep and thickly covered, offering total screening from the air for the many trails under the canopy. It was thought that cutting the trails would interrupt if not stop the movement 12 of men and supplies into the South. THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT 13 HOPE 31 30 SOPHIA LIZ THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY LOLO DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT The Plan was to assemble the forces on the Viet Nam side of the border and conduct a sudden “Blitzkrieg” style operation along the valley. Eight FSBs would be flown in and established on the heights overlooking the valley in the first days of the Operation. DELTA HOTEL Once established, an Armoured column would cross the border and push West. An air assault would seize the main village in the valley – Aloui (no relation to the A Shau A Luoi). The Armoured column would 14 then push on to Tchepone. Forming up, prepared to go… Moving forward… Sometimes having to make diversions on the run along the way… THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT 15 THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT The aim of the 17,000-man Operation was to bring the NVA to battle if possible, and inflict maximum casualties. This would prove that the newly expanded ARVN was up to the task of continuing the war alone. If the NVA melted away as they had done in Cambodia, the ARVN were to cut the roads of the Ho Chi Minh Trail, destroy bridges, caches & installations, and mark key points . for future air and artillery targeting. 16 THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT 17 HOPE 31 30 SOPHIA LIZ THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY LOLO DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT FEBRUARY The initial fly-ins established all the FSBs against minimal opposition. The Armoured column crossed the border and made good progress despite poor weather and shocking road conditions. HOTEL DELTA FEBRUARY The air assault on Aloui was successful and the advance continued. By 6 March the target of Tchepone had been reached and taken. By now they were 35 Km into Laos. Their supply line was stretched. 18 THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT 19 NVA AA HOPE 31 NVA AA 30 NVA AA SOPHIA NVA AA LIZ THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY LOLO NVA AA DAVE SABBEN NVA NVA WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © AA AA ON CREATIVE CONTENT MARCH Once the ARVN column was fully extended, the NVA counter-attacked. They placed antiaircraft batteries overlooking the road and used AAs against FSBs, aircraft and vehicles. They also counter-attacked with Soviet tanks. DELTA NVA AA HOTEL The ARVN column began a retreat but burdened down with 17 damaged vehicles on tow, the retreat soon became a rout. The NVA leap-frogged ahead and set up an ambush at a river crossing 20 between Aloui and Lao Bao. THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT 21 HOPE 31 30 SOPHIA LIZ THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY LOLO DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT The ambush was sprung with rockets and AA fire. Caught while crossing, the towing vehicles were soon destroyed. The 17 damaged vehicles were abandoned and had to be later destroyed by US Cobra gunships. HOTEL DELTA The NVA counter-attacked the FSBs as well, causing hasty withdrawal of most and in some cases, abandoning the FSB equipment. From the ambush site, the NVA gave 22 continual chase to the border. THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT 23 THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT The Operation ended in a shambles. SVN lost 50% of its men (1529 KIA, 5438 WIA), 50% Tanks, Artillery & APCs. There had been 100 US choppers shot down and over 600 others damaged. It was a disaster. NVA losses(from 60,000 in area) were not reliably assessed. It was believed most likely that sympathisers within the ARVN command had leaked the full plan details to the NVA, who had then been able to gather equipment & men and prepare the counter-attacks 24 for some weeks beforehand. THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT 25 Why decisive? The battle became a turning point in the war because: The weakness of having Communist sympathisers within the ARVN command structure was demonstrated and un-solvable; THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION The ARVN units that were newly up (as WASmade PREPARED BY distinct from the “older” units) lacked the training and morale to carry out their missions DAVE SABBEN (in the context of their enemy being older and more experienced in combat); WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHT © ON CREATIVE CONTENT Even with US fire support, the ARVN demonstrated an inability to operate on extended and wide-ranging offensive operations; The US forces in support were swamped with calls for support – What should have been on-call assistance became total dependence; The US saw that there would not be a time when the ARVN would be able to operate without US support (and plenty of it!). 26 1975 CAMBODIA - In April 1975, the Khmer Rough took over Phnom Penh. Lon Nol fled the country and power was taken by Pol Pot. LAOS - In 1975, the Pathet Lao formed a coalition with the Communists and the Monarchists. This was short-lived and after about four months the Pathet Lao took complete control. THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WASCambodia. PREPARED BY On 30 April 1970, Nixon sent troops into The US anti-war protesters predictably reacted. On 1 May at Kent State, history graduate students organised a rally in the middle of DAVE SABBEN the campus. 500 attended, then That night, WHOdispersed. RETAINS COPYRIGHT © there were riots in the town. The mayor declared a state of emergency and alerted the Ohio National Guard (NG). ON CREATIVE CONTENT On 2 & 3 May the students again demonstrated, cleared by the NG and remained contained. On 4 May, 1500 to 3000 gathered, calling for the release of arrested students and for the right to present anti-war case to the mayor. The NG took over responsibility for the campus. When the demonstration turned violent, the NG called for the crowd to disperse. When they would not, tear gas was used. When the violence escalated, 69 rounds were fired: 4 dead,10 wounded. The FBI later said that the shootings were not necessary, but all brought to trial were acquitted. The Kent State shootings were the result of civil disobedience, not the Viet Nam War. 27 THE 12 DECISIVE BATTLES OF THE THREE INDO-CHINA WARS THIS SLIDE AND PRESENTATION WAS PREPARED BY presented by DAVE SABBEN WHO RETAINS COPYRIGHTMG © DAVE SABBEN ON CREATIVE CONTENT 09 – Lam Son 719 Questions? PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE THIS SLIDE THE FINE PRINT THE “COMMERCIAL” This Powerpoint show is copyright to Dave Sabben but is freely available for any non-profit use. It may be downloaded free from Dave’s website: www.sabben.com As at 2011, Dave Sabben leads one tour per year (second half of October) to visit some of the areas of Australian/ANZAC operations of 1966-1971. The highlight of these tours is to walk the Long Tan battlefield with Dave (a platoon Commander in that battle). 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