Transcript The Names and pronunciation of Names in the Bible.

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The Names and
pronunciation of
Names in the Bible.
We hope this will shed a little light
on a subject that causes totally
unnecessary division.
Let us stay with what can be
proven and which is written down,
in stead of each one coming to
his own conclusion.
There is only one way to reach
unity and that is to use the same
source. Let us accept the written
Word of God as our standard and
stick to it . If it is written – accept
and do it – if not, do not preach it.
At the moment, there are division over a few
important issues. I ask again, let us test it with
Scripture.
The Names of God and His Son and the
pronunciation of it.
This we will try to understand from Scripture.
Determining of times.
Determining of what is Scripture and what is
added or taken away.
Then there are made-up lies to steal the peace
of Father’s children. Some people just can’t
stop dishing up falsehood as so called
warnings.
Today we will address three
aspects.
The Name of the Creator-God.
The Name of His Son.
The word “God” or “el”.
What is His Name and the Name of His Son?
Surely you know!
Prov 30:4
efei Semitic early
hihf
Semitic middle
hwhy
Dead sea scroll scribal
hfhy
Semitic late
hwhy
Ashuri Script
hwhy
Aramaic estrangelo
actually only written as
0yrm
There is no doubt about how the
Name was written and developed.
There are enough evidence for that.
Please note: the writing developed…
It is therefor impossible to come to
conclusions over the form of the
letters. Even the oldest letters shown
above, again comes from others !!!!
They have beautiful meanings and
are uplifting, but no teaching must be
based on it.
Our problem is the pronunciation
– as close as possible to the
oldest known possibility.
The following are used:
Jahve – Yahweh
Jehovah – Yehowah
Yahuah
I do not believe that any person is
going to hell over a wrong
pronunciation. People must stop
being judgmental about what
Father never intended.
In the Name we have 4
characters.
Vowels or consonant?
It only matters for the
pronunciation of the third
character – the waw.
w
There are little doubt about the
pronunciation of the first two
characters.
As proof we look at Biblical
names:
Aviyah (Abía)
Z'kharyah (Sagaría)
and more than 110 others.
All these Names carry the
Name of Father in their meaning
and is pronounced as ‘ja’. We
do know that the ‘j’ did not exist
and represent it with a ‘Y’ with
the representation of the Hey
h ‘h’ and it becomes Yah.
Through the pronunciation of
the name it is clear that no
‘Yeh’ is possible and names
like Jehovah fall away.
The names in the Bible are
our explanation.
The next letter is the waw.
It is possible to be a consonant –
W or V or a vowel – O or U.
Also in Scripture, we find names
ending with a more complete form
of Father’s Name.
Y'kholyahu
Y'gizkiyahu
Yesha'yahu
Yirmeyahu
Eliyahu
(Jególja)
(Jehiskía)
(Isaiah)
(Jeremía)
(Elíah)
and many more
I looked at many gramatical
options set out by many writers.
Logic looks at the pronunciation
of the character as it is written
down before us.
According to that, it is a vowel and
given as “U” and the pronunciation
so far is:
Yahu
If it is presented as a consonant it
would have been Yahw .
It is therefore possible if the U is
read as a gramatical “is” at the end
of the word. One problem with this,
according to me:
Cuneiform inscriptions, known as the
Murashu Text, agree that Yahu is
also used at the beginning of a
name, thus without the vowel
declension - Found in Nippur and
dated between 464 en 404 before
the Anointed One came.
Scholastic I must say that it is
possible to pronounce His Name as
Yahweh or Yahuah.
The pronunciation of names in the
Bible convinced me that it is Yahuah.
I will not split hairs with you over the
pronunciation which we did not hear.
What we can say is that these are the
only 2 options we have.
My decision is further strengthened by
the following:
1. Josephus, in his Wars of the Jews,
Book 5, chapt. 5, 7, clearly states that His
Name "consists of four vowels."
2. Yahweh, has its origin, with a lack of
any earlier evidence, in 1567.
Genebrardus, was the first to recommend
Jahve, largely on the strength of
Theodoret’s declaration that Samaritans
used the, Iabe, pronunciation.
It is also possible to use the
corrupted vowels of the
Masoretic texts and other
changes as proof, but I do not
think that it will serve any
purpose.
His Name can not be replaced by
normal nouns like Lord which
means Master, and which is not a
proper noun and also not with
only God which we will discuss
later.
What is His Name and the Name of His Son?
Surely you know!
Prov 30:4
Secondly – let’s look at the Name
of the Anointed One.
Again there are tremendous
division – please – let us look at
provable visual proof and evidence.
I myself believed and taught
differently – until I have seen it with
my own eyes and accepted it.
We look at the following options
which are taught in earnest:
Yahuahshua
Yahushua
Yahshua
Yeshua
Jesus
Yog 5:43 is applicable:
“I came in the Authority and
Character of My Father and you
did not accept me. If another
came in his own character and
authority, him you will accept.”
am`b In the Name = in the
Character and Authority.
Ambassador
Does the ambassador to
another country carry the name
of his own country or president
in his own name?
Luka 1:31
behold, you will become pregnant
and bear a Son and you must call
Him Yeshua.
in Ashuri script.
@ylbqt ryg ah
[w`y
arb
hm` @yrqtw
@ydlatw ansb
In Estrangelo Aramaic script
0n=b Nylbqt ryg 0h
.(w4y hm4 Nyrqtw 0rb
Nydl0tw
The same verse from the Khabouris.
Fourth century copy of the Aramaic
New Covenant - internally dated as
165 after Yeshua.
This is how His Name is written in
the oldest document we have.
There are only 4 characters
[wvy
Y sh u a
Y’shua
pronounced as Yeshua with the ‘e’
sound effectively a fast ‘ei’
The wrong interpretation of Yog
5 resulted in people adding a
Yah or Yahuah which do not
exist in any written material
available!!
It is added to His Word.
For a name to be pronounced
"Yahshua," it would have to be
spelled [wvhy and no such
name exists anywhere in the
Hebrew Bible.
Dr. Daniel Botkin - author of Fluent
Biblical Hebrew
Why then do some people refer to Jesus as
Yahshua? There is absolutely no support for
this pronunciation—none at all—and I say this
as someone holding a Ph.D. in Semitic
languages. My educated guess is that some
zealous but linguistically ignorant people
thought that Yahweh’s name must have been a
more overtpart of our Savior’s name, hence
YAHshua rather than Yeshua—but again, there
is no support of any kind for this theory.
Dr. Michael Brown - Ph.D in Semitic languages.
“of the Yahshua form that "there is no
such name in Hebrew" and that
"people invented it to fit their
theology.“
Dr. Danny Ben-Gigi - former head of
Hebrew programs at Arizona State
University and he designed and
produced the "Living Israeli Hebrew"
language-learning course.
Only one Name is left - “Jesus.”
The teaching is that it comes from
the name of Zeus and therefor is
pagan.
Luckily we do have historical and
linguistic proof as to the origin of
the Name.
Personally I only use His proper and
correct Name: Yeshua as is seen
earlier, but it boggles my mind why
people try to hurt and belittle other
people through a lie. They put
meanings and origins to words that do
not exist and which is not true.
I hope to show it to you clearly.
It is also true of many other words
Please note 2 Tim 2:14
Remind them of these things
and command them before our
Master not to strife over words
which, having no advantage but
to upset those hearing it.
This is one of the most rediculous but
serious alligations I have ever heard, yet
it gained more followers on the net than
any other, through disinformation. There
are even those that proclaim that those
who use the Name ‘Jesus’ serve false
gods and are pagan. I want to seriously
warn against such blatant lies and any
other way by which the peace of Father’s
children is stolen.
Let us only look at facts.
According to our 3 wise men:
The English form Jesus is
derived from the New Testament
Greek name Ἰησοῦς
, pronounced "Yesous."
Hebrew Yeshua to Greek Yesous
Greek Yesous to English Jesus
According to A. B. Traina in his
“Holy Name Bible,”:
“The name of the Son,
Yahshua, has been substituted
by Jesus, Iesus, and Ea-Zeus
(Healing Zeus).”
Two big errors in one short sentence:
There is no such a Name as Yahshua as we
have seen before and there is absolutely no
connection between the Greek Name Ἰησοῦς
(or the English Jesus) and Zeus.
NONE! It is the same type of argument as to
proof that the words Tiger Woods is referring to
tiger infested woods????? It is ridiculous and
based on serious linguistic ignorance. To sound
the same (homophones) does not mean it has
something to do with each other.
I read about people who do not
use the word “raisin,” because it
contains the word “sin”.
It is the same argument.
I will quote the following – can not
put it clearer myself:
“Here is another, equally absurd
statement:
"... according to the
ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA,
the name Ieusus (Jesus) is a
combination of 2 mythical deities,
IEU and SUS (ZEUS, a Greek
god)." - (www.wwyd.org).
Although it is claimed that the
Encyclopedia Britannica says that
“the name Ieusus (Jesus) is a
combination of 2 mythical deities,
IEU and SUS (ZEUS, a Greek
god)” it actually says no such thing.
This is a complete fabrication,
intentional or not. In short, as one
Jewish believer once stated, “Jesus
is as much related to Zeus as
Moses is to mice.”
The response to this statement (which has as
much support as the latest Elvis sightings) is
quite simple: We know where the name I--esous
came from: the Jewish Septuagint! In other
words, this was not some later, pagan corruption
of the Savior’s name; rather,
it was the natural Greek way of rendering the
Hebrew/Aramaic name Yeshua at least two
centuries before His birth, and it is the form of the
name found in more than 5,000 Greek
manuscripts of the New Testament. This is saying
something! The name Iesous is also found in
Greek writings outside the New Testament and
dating to that same general time frame.
- Dr. Michael Brown
Personally I only use Father’s and
His Son’s proven Names.
BUT!!!
Will people not please stop to
proclaim lies that a wrong
pronunciation or spelling mistake
makes a person lost. The judgment
is on him that causes and
proclaims division – because it is
not for the truth.
We talk about the man-created
problem between God and elohim
or el in the same breath.
People preached their own
conclusions from this that sounded
good and right but just isn’t the
truth. As said before – words
sounding the same not necessarily
have something to do with each
other.
Through this people are making
something to be sin which is
not.
It is the same that the Rabbis
and Pharisees did by not
pronouncing His Name and
uphold man-made laws which
Yeshua spoke against.
Please think carefully!!
People forbid and reprove the
use of normal nouns and distort
it as if it is a proper noun of the
One True God.
Think carefully –
elohim and el are used for both
the true God and idols – nongods in the Bible.
The Ghaht – God language
connection does not exist and
has nothing to do with Afrikaans
or names of pagan gods. It
sounds alike (homophone).
I do not take this lightly. I looked from
every possible angle, without
preconceived ideas and expectations,
to history and the origin of the words.
My conclusion is that there are no
grounds for it. I understand that people
can believe it, it is the background and
teaching they receive, but it is not
correct.
I will quote myself from a writing on
this.
Elohim is the name of the pantheon of gods
(plural) in Kena’an when the Yisra’elites
arrived there. In this way the word el is the
singular form and what they called the main
god also called Ba’al. Now I wonder which
god is referred to by people? Linguistically
the word is a normal noun which is referring
in our present time and Language to an
object that is worshipped. I also followed
that narrow view and know today that it
confuse people, are created to sell Bibles
and caused a lot of rejection and pain.
Just as the Kena’anites took the word
and apply it to god, it is the same with
Goht. In no moment of the history of our
language, there is any reference to link it
with an idol. In Afrikaans and English the
word God, with a capital, is only referring
to the only True Creator-God with the
Name He gave Himself. God as word is
nothing else but a noun for what people
worship. elohim, eloha and el are used in
exactly the same way in Hebrew.
Only to those for whom Hebrew became a
new god to worship there is a difference
because linguistically there is none. I
walked the same road. A deep study of Gen
11 will show you that not it nor any other
existing language are the original language.
Why don’t people concentrate on the
fullness of the truth of the Word in stead of
looking for demons in words where it is not,
instead of in attitudes. We also have the
Spirit of Set-Apartness and changes the
words around many times to please people
– until we have learned to follow His voice
only.
We do not have any “holy”
language. By His grace we
translated the NC and worked on the
Bible in 3 languages and in each
there is the same kind of decisions
and coupled words. In Tibetan for
example, the word “holy” – though
we do not use it – is a reference to
the Dalai Lhama himself. Because it
is a present reference and meaning
in each person’s heart, we can not
It is one of the names of the Dalai
Lhama. With el and God we come
against a changed meaning and
history and motives. Sorry, I will
not fall for those stories again –
do research. Then people must (
and I only say it as a meganism
to understanding), they must
read their Bibles with Kena’anite
gods in. Come on be serious !!??
Quote from "The Scriptures"
"English translations have traditionally
rendered it as “God” or as “god(s)” in most
instances. However, the Hebrew word
“elohim” is the plural form of “eloah”, which
has the basic meaning of “mighty one”. This
word is not only used for deity, but is used in
Scripture for judges, angels and idols
(Shemoth / Ex. 7:1; 9:28; 12:12; 22:8,9;
Tehillim / Ps. 8:5; 82:1,6) besides being used
frequently for the Almighty. The shorter form,
“el” have the same basic meaning and
similar usage."
Read it a few times and see what is
really said. The word elohim does
not only refer to The Living CreatorGod, but also to non-gods, etc. So
what is the point in using it
exclusively if you acknowledge that
it also means gods, which you try to
get away from? It is senseless. It is
exactly the same word, just in
another language.
Another quote from "The
Scriptures 1998"
Gad or God
Apart from Gad, the son of Yaʽqoḇ,
there was another “Gad.” The
astrologers of Baḇel called Jupiter
(Zeus) by the name “Gad.” He was also
well known among the Canaanites
where his name was often coupled with
Ba’al, Ba’al Gad, which according to
the Massoretic vowel pointing in the
Book of Yehoshua is pronounced: Ba’al
God.
This same name is discovered in the
ancient Germanic languages as Gott,
Goda, Gode, God, Gud, Gade. And
searching further back into its IndoGermanic (Indo-European) roots, we find
that it traces back to the word GHODH,
which means “union,” even “sexual
union.” No wonder this meaning is still
evident in the Dutch and German gade. It
is also not difficult to see it in the
English “gadfly” and “gadding about.”
We worked in the East for many years. The Hindus
have approx. 333 000 000 (333 Million) gods!!! If I
use the spelling and rules and contractions as
used above, you will not be able to use one
Afrikaans or English word!! This is not research,
but rather look to me, and I hope I am wrong, as if
a reason is sought for a decisions already made. A
Language functions with words in a certain frame
of reference. The same people do not tell you that
el and elohim are the words of reference in the
ancient languages for their gods. I therefore rather
do not use the words at all to refer to my God!!!!!
Hope you see the Sinicism in what I say. Look at
what historians say about it:
Faith System of Gods and Goddesses (Canaanite Gods
and Godesses)
The Phoenicians worshipped a triad of deities, each
having different names and attributes depending upon
the city in which they were worshipped, although their
basic nature remained the same. The primary god was
El, protector of the universe, but often called Baal.....
Baal, also known as El. In 1978, Israeli archaeologists
excavating at an eighth-century B.C. site in the eastern
Sinai desert found several Hebrew inscriptions
mentioning Ba'al and El in the form of "Elohim," a name
used to refer to God in the Hebrew Bible. Further,
whenever the Jews refer to God or our God they use
"Eloha, Elohaino or Elohim."
The word, el and its plural is used
by nations through the ages to refer
to 'godliness' and the Yisra'elites
used the same.
Let us look at the ISBE explanation:
One of the oldest and most widely distributed terms for Deity known
to the human race is 'El, with its derivations 'Elim, 'Elohim, and
'Eloah. Like theos, Dens and God, it is a generic term, including
every member of the class deity. It may even denote a position of
honor and authority among men. Moses was 'Elohim to Pharaoh (Ex
7:1) and to Aaron (Ex 4:16; compare Judg 5:8; 1Sam 2:25; Exod
21:5; Exod 21:6; Exod 22:7 ff; Ps 58:11; Ps 82:1). **It is,
therefore, a general term expressing majesty and
authority, and it only came to be used as a proper name for
Israel's God in the later period of abstract monotheism
when the old proper name Yahweh was held to be too
sacred to be uttered. The meaning of the root 'El, and the
exact relation to it, and to one another, of 'Elohim and
'Eloah, lie in complete obscurity. ........ In the Old
Testament they signify only the general notion of Deity.
** It is therefor not acceptable to us
as a name. It is one of the
replacements that was used not to
pronounce Father’s Name. Another
reason for me not to accept it.
You speak Afrikaans or English and
your Bible is translated into that
language. I translate into Afrikaans
and if I was convinced of anything
else I would have used it. I do not
have any reason to cling to a word
– I do not sell the Bible. I do not
look for proof of what I have so that
people can accept it. I only seek the
truth.
I did a comprehensive test and asked
Afrikaans-speaking people what they
understand under the word “God." 100% of
the people had a reference to the True,
Only, Creator-God in different ways. If that
is the reference people have of an innocent
generic word – why use the Hebrew or
Aramaic word that people must guess what
it means, but do not know. People came
with a derived meaning and origin and
caused much confusion.
In my research I also found that
people think of "elohim" and "el" as
God’s names!? Which is not true –
in this way confusion is caused by a
derived meaning. However good
the intentions, and I have good
friends only using these words, it is
not correct. Because of the fact that
people see it as Father’s Name, it is
even more confusing.
Ps 82:1 is a good example
"God stands in a god-meeting; He
judges the gods." All these words
are el or elohim – what to do
now? Is your elohim not the same
as the gods? It is about Spirit and
attitude – not words.
'God' is a generic noun, like tree. There
are many trees but one Olive tree. Now
I may not use the word tree because
there is also a thorntree? Uhh? The
word God with a capital is the noun that
shows to all English speaking people
towards the only True Creator-God and
is not His Name which is only – and I
quote:
Yes 42:8 “I am hwhy, that is
My Name; I will not give My glory
or honour to another, or My praise
to idols." I will not call Him by
another Name, also not el. He is
the only Creator-God we
acknowledge – but it is not His
Name.
The same is true for the words
Lord which means Master from
Adonai.
It is not another god – only a
translation.
Adonai is another word
“Adonis is derived from the Canaanite title, Adon.
It is the Semitic word for master or ‘lord’ and i
means ‘my’, therefore Adonai (Adonis is the
Greek version of the same) translates as ‘my
lord’; similarly the meaning of Baal, with whom he
shares traits, is also ‘lord’ or ‘master’.”
This statement is historically true but
again they talk about a NOUN that is
translated. It is a Noun – it can be
translated – so what?
Let us stop judging and have a
testimony to the world.