Transcript Document 7903746

July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
LMSC P&P Issues for
Closing Plenary
Author:
Matthew Sherman
2nd Vice Chair, IEEE 802
[email protected]
Date: July 25, 2003
Submission
Slide 1
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
Purpose
• Review current LMSC P&P Issues
Submission
Slide 2
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
Outline
• General Rules Issues
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Issues with CS SAB P&P
Long term rules approach
Editor’s License
Comment form
• Motions to approve current LMSC P&P
revisions
• Motions to ballot new LMSC P&P revisions
Submission
Slide 3
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
General Rules Issues
Submission
Slide 4
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
CS SAB Issues - Status
• In reviewing CS SAB P&P became aware
of “conflicts” with LMSC P&P
• Have inquiry with Jim Moore (VP CS SAB)
– No response yet
Submission
Slide 5
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
CS SAB Issues
• When do LMSC P&P changes become effective?
– CS SAB P&P seem to indicate they must first be balloted by CS
SAB
• See CS SAB P&P Sections 3.3 and 11.0
– Would prefer P&P effective at end of Plenary when approved
• Which takes precedence – LMSC P&P or Roberts Rules?
– CS SAB P&P places Robert’s Rules are above Sponsor (LMSC)
P&P (for instance 802’s P&P)
• See CS SAB P&P Section 2.0
– Would prefer Robert’s Rules placed below LMSC P&P
• Do we pass PARs to [email protected]?
– We should
• See CS SAB P&P Section 6.3(d)
Submission
Slide 6
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
Long Term Rules Approach
• CS SAB is rewriting their P&P from scratch
– Starting from model Sponsor P&P from SA
• Want to assist CS SAB in completing their job
– Seems to be ongoing for a couple of years
• Want to redo our P&P along same lines once CS
SAB completes their work
– Will incorporate by reference as much as possible
• Minimize number of local rules required
Submission
Slide 7
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
Editor’s License
• How much license does P&P Editor have?
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Fix formatting?
Correct misspellings?
Fix inconsistencies between P&P Revisions?
Correct Small errors and omission in P&P
Revisions?
• For example – if forgot to correct occurrence of
SEC?
• Editor desires EC input
Submission
Slide 8
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
Current Process and P&P
• Ballot form for last set of ballots not
effective
– People did not always uses
• Sometime made up their own form
– Put crimp on email dialogue for ballots
• Will try a simpler form integrated into email format this time around
Submission
Slide 9
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
LMSC P&P Revisions
In Progress
Submission
Slide 10
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
Current P&P Revisions
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WG membership – In process
Appeals process – In process
EC Title change – In process
Unpaid attendees – In process
Min Sponsor ballot duration - Deferred
Submission
Slide 11
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
WG Membership Ballot
• Have completed extensive comment and
resolution period
• Wish to approve current version of this P&P
Revision
Submission
Slide 12
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
EC Motion
To approve incorporation of the P&P revision titled
“WG Membership” from the file:
“0307-802.0-r3-WG_Membership_P&P_changeProposed_Resolution.doc”
into the LMSC P&P
Made by Matthew Sherman
Seconded by
For:
Against:
Abstain:
Submission
Slide 13
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
Appeals Process Ballot
• Have completed comment resolution
• Also received extensive comments from
ML Nielsen at IEEE
• Had to update appeals process for most
current version is SA OM
Submission
Slide 14
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
EC Motion
To approve incorporation of the P&P revision titled
“Appeals Process” from the file:
“0307-802.0-r3-Appeals_Process_P&P_RevisionProposed_Resolution.doc”
into the LMSC P&P
Made by Matthew Sherman
Seconded by
For:
Against:
Abstain:
Submission
Slide 15
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
EC Title Change Ballot
• Completed comment resolutions
• Had to create new figures from scratch to
complete resolutions
Submission
Slide 16
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
EC Motion
To approve incorporation of the P&P revision titled “EC Title”
from the file:
“0307-802.0-r0-Executive_Committee_title_P&P_RevisionProposed_Resolution.doc”
into the LMSC P&P
Made by Matthew Sherman
Seconded by
For:
Against:
Abstain:
Submission
Slide 17
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
New LMSC P&P Revisions
Submission
Slide 18
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
New P&P Revisions
• Treasury – Substantial – WLQ/MJS
• Precedence – Editorial – MJS
• Min Sponsor ballot duration – RG
– Carried over so no ballot motion required
Submission
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Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
Precedence P&P Revisions
• The SA Model P&P has an order of
Precedence
• Most documents above and below ours have
an order of Precedence
• LMSC P&P should have a Precedence
section
Submission
Slide 20
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs
July, 2003
doc.: IEEE 802.0-03/XXXr0a
EC Motion
To approve balloting of the P&P revision titled
“Precedence” from the file:
“0307-802.0-r0-Precedence_P&P_Revision.doc”
Made by Matthew Sherman
Seconded by
For:
Against:
Abstain:
Submission
Slide 21
Matthew Sherman, AT&T Labs