Transcript Property I Fall 2008
Property II
Professor Donald J. Kochan
Spring 2009
Class 53 13 April 2009
Today’s Readings
Regulatory Takings
Pages 1006-1041
Lucas
Palazzolo Tahoe-Sierra
Oral Arguments in
Penn Central
and
Lucas
Lucas
Categorical Rule 1: Any physical invasion constitutes a taking Categorical Rule 2: Any regulation that eliminates all economically viable use constitutes a taking (note the stipulation in the case) Ad hoc inquiry – even if it is not a regulation may still go “too far” per se , categorical taking, a Finally, focus on the importance of whether the property owner had a right to conduct the activity unregulated at common law; if he did not, it cannot be a taking because the regulation is a legitimate exercise of the police power
Palazzolo
Ripeness – finality, certainty, level of discretion to authorize activity, “ordinary processes” for decisionmaking Avoidance techniques by regulators (the “we haven’t yet said no to everything yet” defense) Post-regulation acquisition of property does not ipso facto bar regulatory takings claim
First English
If it is a categorical
per se
otherwise a taking under taking or
Penn Central
temporary nature is irrelevant, it is still a taking that takes the parties to the compensation/valuation stage , the “Normal delays” in permitting, zoning, ordinance compliance obligations generally not a taking
Tahoe-Sierra
Moratorium – not a taking; not presumed to be permanent Highlights issue of finality before deciding what the government has determine yet actually done ; cannot Consider Ripeness Issues Indefiniteness Issues – delays generally not categorical takings Denial of economically productive use; diminution in value at compensation stage Leasehold hypothetical – is a moratorium like an uncompensated government lease?
Compare with temporary takings v. permanent takings How does it affect not only use of the property but also investment?
Non-Required: Oral Argument http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2001/2001_00_1167/
Pedagogical Reasons for Listening to Oral Arguments
A glimpse into the Supreme Court of the United States and its Justices – www.supremecourtus.gov
See what preceded the decisions you have read Analyze how the arguments involved in those cases were presented and analyzed Examine the audio for purposes of learning oral advocacy skills (you can learn from the good do and the bad on these tapes); analyze how the attorneys respond to questions and see how to do it well and what not to Professor Kochan will provide analysis during those arguments played in class, on substance and advocacy and lawyering skills, including a discussion of pre argument briefing
Penn Central & Lucas Oral Arguments
Penn Central (to be played in class) http://www.oyez.org/cases/1970 1979/1977/1977_77_444/argument/ Lucas (to be played in class) http://www.oyez.org/cases/1990 1999/1991/1991_91_453/argument/
Concluding Remarks
Place yourself in the shoes of the property owner Place yourself in the shoes of affected or interested members of society Place yourself in the shoes of the regulator