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Plato's Philosophy
Kathy Edwards
Philosophy
Part II
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Plato’s idea of the Forms
The essence or core of something.
The concept
The idea
Universal understanding
Cat, dog, horse, beauty, justice
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Plato’s Idea of the Forms
Abstract
Beyond space and time
Knowing
We all “know” what a cat is, what a
horse is, what beauty is, what justice is,
the idea of the thing
The essence is the known part
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Plato’s Idea of the Forms
To “know” something is to have the idea
of it
Everyone has their own individual,
personalized idea of a particular cat,
dog, horse, beauty
But, we still “know” universally and in
general what “it” is we are talking about
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Plato’s concept of the Soul
The soul is really your mind, your
psyche, your “will”
The soul has three parts:
Rational - reason, control, discipline
Spirited - will, drive, creativity
Desirous - passion, spontaneity
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Plato’s concept of the soul
If the soul is in harmony, and all parts
are working to the good of the whole,
then you are able to become
philosophical, and attain the highest
form of goodness
The soul is the part of us that makes
choices
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Plato’s concept of the soul
The soul is responsible for the life we
lead
We do have the ability to change, and
make different choices
The soul aids us in this world and the
next world
Perfection of one’s soul towards
goodness is our life quest
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Plato’s concept of the soul
The life we lead, is the life we choose in
this world and the next
We may come back and repeat life, if
we do not get to the highest good by the
time of death
The soul learns, over time, the soul will
be perfected
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Plato’s concept of the soul
The soul can be corrupted
The soul can go to Hades, never to
return or to be allowed to perfect
oneself
Plato had a type of concept of “heaven”
and “hell”
Plato believed in a divine power and in
man’s potential for good in this life and
the next
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The Apology
Socrates speaking to his accusers.
Socrates accused of crimes:
corruption of the youth of Athens, he
caused them to question their elders
atheistic practices - he did not worship
the gods of Athens, but worshipped the
goddess and listened to the Oracle at
Delphi
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The Apology
Moral code of Socrates: The good man
makes you better, not worse.
The good man will not do you harm.
Never return evil for evil.
If you feed evil and fear, it will grow.
Begin your education by admitting “I do
not know” and seeking those who do
know
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The Apology
VOW page 54: The charges are old
accusations coupled with new ones.
Socrates is fighting the shadows
He is speaking to an audience already
convinced of his guilt
page 55: Socrates is a teacher
Socrates has a type of wisdom that is
often misunderstood
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The Apology
Socrates listens to the Oracle at Delphi
Socrates is in search of a man wiser
than himself
He questions others in an irritating
manner “the gadfly”
He found many knew of many things:
poetry, art, music
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The Apology
Most people have specialized
knowledge
Socrates made enemies by asking too
many questions
the youth gather around Socrates to
watch him question others, and they
imitate him
People become angry with Socrates,
blame him (scapegoat)
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The Apology
Socrates seeks to reveal, not conceal
Everyone is responsible for the
education of the young
The laws, the jury, the senators, the
parents, the city have aided in
corruption
Socrates asks: why would I want to
corrupt anyone?
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The Apology
Page 58 “If a man with whom I
associate is corrupted by me, I am very
likely to be harmed by him?”
Why was he not warned of his activities
before now if he was so corrupting?
Why wait until now, when he is in his
70’s to stop him?
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The Apology
The youth can be just as easily
corrupted by books in the marketplace
that they can purchase themselves.
Socrates acknowledges that he believes
in the spiritual world and divine beings.
His mission to teach is from “god”.
See page 60: Soc is not afraid of death
or the hereafter
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The Apology
Socrates honors Athens and it’s laws.
Socrates served as a warrior and on the
council.
Socrates cares about improvement of
men’s souls.
“Virtue is not acquired by money, but
from virtue comes money and every
good…” page 60
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The Apology
To kill Socrates, will hurt Athens and the
accusers more than it will Socrates, “the
evil of unjustly taking a man’s life is
great”. (page 61)
There are few around like Socrates,
there will not be another.
Socrates is a gadfly that stings Athens
the slow steed…..
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The Apology
Socrates is being ridiculed for not being
like those in power.
Socrates is being punished for going
against those in power when he had a
position in the government.
Oppression and fear did not frighten
Soc into abandoning justice.
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The Apology
Soc is the same in private and in public
However a human turns out to be, he is
not responsible, we are responsible for
ourselves
There are many that seem to be wise
but are not, there are many pretenders
Seeming is not being
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The Apology
Page 63 Socrates is an old man, with a
family, he commits his case before god
alone
A guilty verdict is returned page 63
death is the penalty
Seek virtue and wisdom, and the public
good
appearance and reality are different
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The Apology
Socrates knows he will die a martyr
Socrates: page 65: “the difficulty is not
in avoiding death, but avoiding evil, evil
runs faster than death”
Death is a gain, not a loss
Death is nothingness, unconsciousness
or change/migration of soul
the true judges are in next world
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