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The Perspective of
the Irish ‘Traveller*
Community’
Dr. Kevin Griffin
Dublin Institute of Technology
The Irish ‘travelling’ or ‘traveller’ community is an indigenous Irish ethnic minority
with shared history, culture, values, customs and traditions which makes them a
unique group. They share some similarities to Roma and Gipsy peoples.
Context
Issue 1: Focus of Pilgrimage Research
Glocalisation?
Pilgrimage
Local
Regional /
National
International
Issue 2: Organisation of Pilgrimage
Structured and Ordered
 Organised
 Structured
 Planned
 Routes / itineraries / packages / bundles
/ targetting / managing / coordinating etc.
 What about those that are ‘outside the
box’ – living a nomadic life / illiterate /
non-conforming ?
Issue 3: Audience / Research Pop.
Core / Normal / Standard
 In Ireland we focus on :
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Catholic
Regular Mass attendees
Settled / comfortable / middle-old age etc.
‘Native Irish’
Issue 4: Lens
Personal and Experiential
 This paper focuses on what Alison
McIntosh described as meaningful
experience – not consumption and
production, but personal meaning for the
individual
 We need to understand their daily life to
understand their experience.
 Throughout this I am questioning myself
– ethically / morally / objectivity etc..
Introduction –
Traveller Faith
Access via a ‘grass roots’ religious
leader who gives me legitimacy
Insights into faith
 ‘Travellers are very religious. I love a lot of
blessed pictures and statues and plenty of
holy water in the place. If I miss Mass it
takes a lot out of me. Travellers believe a lot
in priests and cures. We are very
superstitious - marriages and black cats. We
believe in ghosts - it gives us an idea that
there's life after death. . . ’
. --Kathleen
McDonagh
We wouldn't miss the patterns of the graves
(Traveller Voices, Pavee Point Travellers Centre )
Insights into faith
(from interviews and focus groups)
 When I was young we travelled and slept
in tents on the side of the road – I was
born in the County Home in . . . and
baptised in . . . My mother made sure we
were settled in a stable campsite for our
communion and confirmation – but she
had no care for reading or writing – you
could get on without them.
 . . . He wasn’t a great goer of mass, but
he always said his prayers every night.
Insights into faith
(from interviews and focus groups)
 I can’t do the rosary right, but I’m trying
to learn (grandmother)
 ‘You have your own belief’
 ‘Our Lady is always here’
 I believe in Our Lady and the Sacred
Heart and all the Angels and Saints
 I’ve been to Meduguorgie three times
this year already (young male c.20yrs)
 The Lady has been good to us (male
c.40yrs)
1. Knock
Background Information
 No. 1 visited site in Ireland
 c.1million visitors (pilgrims?) per year
 Marian Shrine
 Formally recognised by the Church
 Visited by Pope John Paul II (1979)
Many questions for Knock
 Many sceptics question the
 As an academic I
can pick holes in this
‘validity’ of experience at such a
site because it is site.
 trendy
 Does this site cater for ‘all’
 great fun
visitors / pilgrims
 gratifying to my
 Is this level of ‘organisation’
intellectual ego.
needed at sites
 How much of the illustrated
fabric fits into the ‘sacred’ end of  BUTTTTTTT:
the continuum and how much
into the ‘secular’ end ?
2. Knock through the
eyes of the Travelling
Community
Traveller’s Comments on Knock
 ‘In Knock you really feel closer to Our
Lady – where she appeared’
 ‘The statue procession is wonderful’
 ‘This is a peaceful and holy place’
 ‘There are no words to describe my
experience of Knock’
 ‘Everybody should come here’
Traveller’s Comments on Knock
 ‘Its beautiful’
 ‘Knock is a funny feeling – you feel the
presence of God’
 ‘There was only a small crowd today – it
was lovely’
 ‘Being close to the processional statue
made my day’
 ‘Going to Knock is a long family tradition –
this kind of pilgrimage is part of who I am’
What Travellers did in Knock
 ‘We went around the old chapel 3 times &
kissed the stone at the apparition 3 times’
 ‘I said prayers for people who need them’
 ‘I lit candles’
 ‘I got masses said for the sick’
 ‘I took photos of the statues / chapels /
procession’
 ‘I went to the blessing of the sick’
What they bought in Knock
 ‘I bought relics and presents’
 Gifts
 Medals
 Bracelets
 Rosaries
 ‘You need to bring things home for
everybody’
3. Other (domestic)
sites visited by
Travellers
 Some travellers try any different site, wells,
priests, healing men . . . . I stick with just
one.
 Many of these sites are liminal in the
standard spiritual / religious / secular
framework
 Traveller practices are often as Corina Griffin
described yesterday – to the outsider what
they do makes little sense, but to the ‘pilgrim’
what they do is profound.
St Brigid’s Well Kildare
St Brigid’s Stream & Well - Faughart,
two miles north-west of Dundalk
Hip / Leg Stone
Eye Stone
Knee Stone
‘We Visit for Intentions and cures’
Head Stone
St Bridget’s Well Liscannor, Co.
Clare
Croagh Patrick (The Reek)
Killeigh (The Seven Blessed Wells
‘we leave something from sick people’
Other Sites
 Fr McDonagh’s
Grave
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‘My father knew Fr.
McDonagh’ we
visited him in the
1970s. He was a
living saint . . . now
lots of Travellers visit
his grave.
 Fr Moore’s Grave
 St. Kieran’s Well in
Kells
 ‘loads of holy wells’
 St Bridget’s Stream
 Glendalough
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the stairs
 Mt Mellary
4. Travellers and
International
Pilgrimage
International Travel
 In the past people ‘didn’t have the way of going
places’. Now we can go anywhere in the world.
 Can be argued that Travellers are not interested
in what Christina Seidl called topical trends and
modernity
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they just use modernity to carry out their traditional
life in a slightly different way
International Sites
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The sites of ‘Father Pio’ - San Giovanni
Rome – the Vatican
Mejugorge
Fatima
Lourdes
 Lourdes is my favourite I went there in 1975 for
£40 – 14 of us in a mini-bus and camped on the
way. I’ve been there every year for the last 7
years. I don’t know where I get the money, but I
get it.
Concluding
Observations
Travellers and Pilgrimage
 Reductionist theories are not sufficiently precise
and frankly insulting to this ethnic group
 There is no ‘universal’ pattern in traveller
practice – which is familial and individualistic
 Often Travellers don’t require services but if
they exist will make the most of them
 Their lives are random / unstructured in a
conventional sense – St Winifred’s well in
Wales
Travellers and Pilgrimage
 Ritualistic / accused of being almost
pagan
 Contrast men V women
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Physical / Masculine penance v the
feminine
 Little risk that tourism will (as warned by
J. Jafari) absorb this kind of religion
Other Links
 http://www.lookaroundireland.com/louth/brigid.php
Thousands wait for Knock apparition
Irish Times Monday, October 12, 2009
 THOUSANDS GATHERED at Knock Shrine, Co Mayo, yesterday
hoping to see an apparition of Our Lady.
 There were ripples of applause from a crowd estimated at more than
5,000 as some people believed they could see the sun shimmering,
changing colour and dancing in the sky. . . .
 [One observer] said: “I’m 53 years old and I never seen the sun go
like that before. . . . The sun was spinning in the sky. I experienced a
feeling of total happiness. It is a feeling I would love to experience
again. It was amazing”
 Earlier in the week Dublin-based clairvoyant Joe Coleman predicted
Our Lady would appear at the old parish church – scene of the 1879
apparition – at 3pm. Quite a number of those present were members
of the Travelling community.