SCONE 719 Networking Meeting
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SCONE Networking Meeting
PAT BURNS
VICE PRESIDENT FOR IT
COLORADO STATE UNIVERSITY
HAEHN COMMUNITY ROOM, DWIRE HALL 204
UNIV. OF COLORADO AT COLORADO SPRINGS
11:00 AM TO 2:00 PM
PLEASE BRING A BROWN BAG LUNCH
Attendees:
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Alan Ashurst and Danny
Parks, OIT
Pat Burns and Scott Baily,
CSU
Ray Caplinger and Dennis
Shultz, District 11
Jeff Custard & Marla
Meehl, NCAR/UPOP
Dan Maas, CASE
Dan Morris, CDE
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David Niccoli, CSU-Pueblo
Jeff Pearson, Mesa County
Schools
Jon Saunders, SECOM
Denise Shorey, EagleNet
Randy Stiles, Colorado
College
Kent Tamsen, CALET
Jerry Wilson, UCCS
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Agenda
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Introductions
Purpose of meeting – Burns
Backbone network – Scott Baily, David
Niccoli
4. Possible topology – Jeff Custard
5. SECOM discussion – Jon Saunders
6. Cost models – Jeff Custard
7. Other
8. Adjourn
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2.
3.
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1. Introductions
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2. Purpose of Meeting – Burns
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A.
B.
C.
D.
E.
F.
Alan Ashurst – MNT’s strategy
Is there a fit for providing UPOP services in the
791 LATA via SCONE or otherwise? - Burns
Jeff Custard – UPOP’s strategy, SEGP
Kent Tamsen – interest from K-12
CDE comments
Others’ comments
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2. Purpose of Meeting – Burns
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A.
B.
C.
D.
E.
F.
Alan Ashurst – MNT’s strategy
Is there a fit for providing UPOP services
in the 791 LATA via SCONE or otherwise?
- Burns
Jeff Custard – UPOP’s strategy, SEGP
Kent Tamsen – interest from K-12
CDE comments
Others’ comments
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B. Is There a Fit? – Burns
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Access to national R&E networks
Multi-homed to Commodity, automatic fail over
“Dialable” capacity in 1 Mbps increments
1.
2.
3.
1.
2.
Takes ~1 hour to adjust capacity
Summer savings
Intra-FRGP traffic
4.
1.
2.
3.
“Free”
Can burst to circuit capacity, e.g. 1 Gbps
High quality (e.g. video conferencing, multimedia work)
Community membership and evolution toward Next
Generation Optical Networking
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1.
2.
Some circuits can be shared, lowering costs and increasing capacity
A way for us to make progress, on NGN as a state
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Single-circuit Connectivity & Pricing
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Qwest pricing looks attractive, on the surface, but:
Capacity is not shared
A site must order sufficient capacity to burst to its maximum
rate, or limit functionality
Consider pricing for shared circuits/services
EC BOCES at 1 Gbps through SCONE, Commodity only
EC BOCES includes 17 rural school districts
SCONE total aggregate connectivity at 30 Mbps
We advertised $100-$150/Mbps-mo (FRGP ‘raw’ pricing)
Instead, via aggregation, EC BOCES pricing averages closer to
$15/Mbps-mo – see slide on next page
UPOP pricing should be examined in this light
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EC BOCES Monthly Internet Costs
$600.00
$500.00
$400.00
$300.00
$200.00
$100.00
$0.00
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Disconnected Optical Networks
Need an Inventory to Define Possibilities
UW,
Laramie
NC Telecom
Wyoming
BiSON
UW lease from
National
FiberCo
CSU
PRPA
Longmont
Boulder
DUSEL
Frisco
Grand
Junction
Glenwood
Springs
(FastTrack)
FRGP,
Denver
CSM
Colorado
Springs
“CCoD
Fiber”
FMC
33 Mbps
mwave
Kit Carson
Arkansas Valley
Durango
(SECOM)
Pueblo
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EC BOCES
Burlington
Limon
Monument
Hill regen
NE BOCES
(PC
Telecom)
Bennett
PPIR
K-12 Video Classing Initiative
Colorado
Kansas
SE BOCES
2. Purpose of Meeting – Burns
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A.
B.
C.
D.
E.
F.
Alan Ashurst – MNT’s strategy
Is there a fit for providing UPOP services in the
791 LATA via SCONE or otherwise? - Burns
Jeff Custard – UPOP’s strategy, SEGP
Kent Tamsen – interest from K-12
CDE comments
Others’ comments
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9/9/2008
Agenda
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Introductions
Purpose of meeting – Burns
Backbone network – Scott Baily, David
Niccoli
4. Possible topology – Jeff Custard
5. SECOM discussion – Jon Saunders
6. Cost models – Jeff Custard
7. Other
8. Adjourn
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2.
3.
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3. Backbone Network–Baily, Niccoli
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A. SCONE overview
B. Level3 back-up circuit
C. Separate VLANs for transport
D.Secondary routing for redundancy
E. Management and operations
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SCONE Overview
Southern Colorado Optical Network for Education
Partnership between CDOT and Higher Ed
CDOT provided right of way, infrastructure
including fiber
Higher Ed provided design, labor (splicing), and
$50K
Approximately $70K in equipment was funded by
the participants
SCONE Participants
Colorado State University
Ft. Collins, Pueblo, System Office
University of Colorado at Colorado Springs
East Central BOCES
SCONE Topology September, 2008 (approx.)
CU HSC
FRGP
Level3
Backup
Circuit
Mon. Hill
Traffic Op. Ctr.
CSU-P
UCCS
Basic Architecture
Gigabit Ethernet from Denver to Pueblo
Multiple VLANs, one for each site
Most efficient use of fiber
Very cost effective
Pueblo-Denver Backup circuit via Level3
Metro Ethernet Service
Currently capped at 100 Mbps
Automatic Fail-over
Management and Operations
Monitored and Managed by CSU NOC
Most end sites do their own monitoring/alerting
“Best effort” support
Rely upon “local” staff in some situations
Remote hands support, diagnostics, equipment swaps
Web page maintained at CSU
Contacts, Diagrams, Changes, Outages
4. Possible Topology – Jeff Custard
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A. Benefits
of FRGP participation:
aggregation, free peering, services, I2
access, ...
B. Use SCONE for transport across the LATA
C. Explore local connection options
D. QMOE across the LATA
E. UPOP place Ethernet switches for
aggregation at UCCS and CSU-P
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5. SECOM – Jon Saunders
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A.Use
of SECOM fiber span to L3 service?
B. Peering with the FRGP
C. Possible interconnect with VNETS at Cheyenne
Wells
D. Possible future collaboration for SCONE and
SECOM for back-up services
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6. Cost Models
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A.
B.
UPOP costs – Jeff Custard
SCONE cost sharing discussion – all
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Q&A
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Are most welcome.
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