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St Francis College
Rochestown
St Francis College,
Rochestown
Co. Cork.
Tel: 021 4891417
Fax: 021 4361254
Email: [email protected]
CAO Information Night
Tuesday 6th December 2012
Guidance Counsellor:Ms.Geraldine Mulvey
Presentation
Career Guidance
 The CAO System
 Leaving Cert Points Grid
 National Framework of Qualifications
 The CAO Application Process
 Points for popular courses in UCC
 HPAT - Medicine
 Useful Websites –
 So where are the Jobs?
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Career Guidance
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Take stock of their present
circumstances
Understand the factors influencing their
decision making
Appreciate more realistically what they
have to offer
Review & evaluate options
Identify preferred options
Formulate an action plan
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The CAO
Organisation founded in 1976 by the
higher education institutions (HEIs) in the
Republic of Ireland.
 Purpose is to process applications
centrally and to deal with them in an
efficient and fair manner.
 It is the applicants own responsibility to
ensure that the application is submitted
accurately and in time.
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Irish Leaving Certificate
Examination Points Calculation
Grid
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Core Subjects - MATHS
Fewer than 20% of Leaving Certificate students take this
subject at higher level (nationally)
 If you are capable of studying this subject at higher level, there
are tremendous career opportunities
 Higher Level Maths (C3) is a requirement for Level 8
Engineering Degree Courses and Mathematical Science in CIT
and NUI’s
 2012: BONUS points (25 pts for achieving D3 in HL maths)
where students have an honour in higher level maths – now
awarded in all the NUI’s, UL, DIT, teacher training colleges
plus WIT
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Accompanying conditions:
 The six best results, in recognised subjects, in one
Leaving Certificate Examination will be counted
for points computation.
 One sitting only of the Leaving Certificate
Examination will be counted for points purposes.
 In the case of Foundation Level Mathematics or
Foundation Level Irish, some HEIs may not award
the points shown above. If in any doubt, check
with the Admissions Office of the appropriate
HEIs.
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National Framework of
Qualifications
 Level
3 Junior Certificate
 Level
5 Leaving Certificate/PLC
 Level
6 Higher Certificate
 Level
7 Ordinary Degree
 Level
8 Honours Degree
 Level
9 /10 Masters/ PhD
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The Application Process
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Information on courses is available from
each HEI and the prospectus should be
consulted before making an application
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• CAO distributes to schools and individuals
an application pack containing an Application
Form and a Handbook containing
instructions and information about the
application process.
• Every applicant should be familiar with the
contents of the CAO Handbook
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Timely Action
In order to be fair to all applicants,
closing dates are strict and therefore
action should be taken in good time.
Do not leave everything to the last
minute.
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Choosing Courses
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Consult your Guidance Counsellor
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Discuss your options with family and friends
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Details about courses may be found in HEI
prospectuses and by consulting HEI
websites.
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Making an application
Applicants are encouraged to apply online.
 The website address is www.cao.ie
 Applying online is cheaper and it prevents
many of the errors commonly associated
with completing a paper application form.
 Normal online application €40 (1st Feb.
2012)
 Discounted rate €30 (20th Jan 2012)
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Application Form: Part A
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Part A of the Application Form is mostly self
explanatory.
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Information which identifies you is of the
utmost importance.
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Carefully enter details such as your name,
address, date of birth, schools attended etc.
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Two Applications on One Form
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There are two course choice lists and
applicants may make up to ten course choices
on each list.
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10 choices may be made on the Level 8 list
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10 choices may be made on the Level 7/6 list
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Two Applications on One Form
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It is possible to receive an offer on both
lists
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You may then decide to accept either
your Level 7/6 or your Level 8 offer.
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Alternatively, you might not wish to accept
either offer.
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Order of Preference
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If you learn nothing else from this
presentation let it be this...
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Place your course choices in genuine
order of preference!
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To do otherwise is a grave mistake.
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Application Form: Part B
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Most applicants will not be required to
complete Part B of the application form.
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Supplementary Application Form
(SIF)
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The Higher Education Access Route (HEAR):
A 3rd level admissions scheme for school leavers from socially
economic disadvantaged backgrounds. (see pg. 8 of CAO Handbook)
 Must provide additional info/documentation (income revenue forms,
social welfare benefits ..... by 1st of April 2012
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DARE: Disability Access Route to Education
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Asperger’s, Autism, ADD. Dyspraxia, Dyslexia, Physical Disability ....
Submit evidence of Disability and second level Academic Reference
to CAO by 1st April 2012
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Your Application Number
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If you apply online your application number will appear on
your Receipt of Online Application.
◦ This number is private and it will be used in every
correspondence between you and the CAO for the
rest of the year.
◦ If you apply online you may change your course choices
free of charge until January 31st.
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Statement of Course Choices
The Statement is important for two reasons:
1. The Statement of Course Choices includes notification of
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your CAO application number.
The Statement of Course Choices lists the courses that
you have applied for.
If you have made any mistake or omission in
your course choices then now is the time to
rectify your error.
Pay particular attention to restricted courses.
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Communicating With CAO
The easiest and most efficient way to
communicate with CAO is by using the 'Contact
Us' facility on the CAO website.
 Always quote your CAO application number in
any communication with CAO.
 If you post something to CAO, always obtain a
certificate of posting at the post office. This is a
free service and it offers you peace of mind.
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Statement of Application Record.
• Check the following carefully, if there is any
error or omission, amend the Statement and
return it to CAO.
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Are all the courses shown and in the correct order?
Are all the codes correct?
Are the exam numbers correct?
Are all exams mentioned?
If you do not receive a Statement by 1st June
contact CAO immediately.
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Change of mind
◦ It is safer to use the Change of Mind Facility
on the website than to use a paper Change of
Mind form.
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Change of Mind
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1st Nov to 1st Feb (17:15) – no fee
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5th of Feb (12:00) to 1st March - €10 charge
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5th of May (12:00) to 1st July (17:15) – no fee
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Late application to CAO not later then 5pm, 22nd July –
extra fee
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The Offer Process
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In the week following the release of the Leaving
Certificate results CAO will post a
communication to all applicants.
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The Offer Process
If you are entitled to an offer, you will be sent an
offer notice.You should check that all of the
details on the offer notice are correct and that
there are no omissions.
 Offers will also be available on the CAO website.
 You may check for and accept offers on the
website. In fact, most applicants now record
acceptances online.
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The Offer Process
Your offer notice may contain an offer
◦ for a Level 8 course
◦ or a Level 7/6 course
◦ or both
 If you receive two offers at the same time you
may only accept one of them.
 If you wish to accept an offer of a place you must
carry out the instructions on the offer notice
before 5.15pm on the closing date for acceptance
printed on the offer notice.
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The Offer Process
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There can be no delays at the
offer/acceptance stage.
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Any offer not accepted by the closing date
for receipt of acceptance of offers in CAO
will be offered to another applicant in the
next round of offers.
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How Places are Allocated
We will look just at Level 8 courses, but
exactly the same process will take place
with Level 7/6 courses, and at the same
time.
 The importance of you, the applicant,
placing courses in genuine order of
preference will become apparent in
the following slides.
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How Places are Allocated
When examination results are released in
August they are entered into the CAO
computer.
 The computer checks each applicant’s
results. For each course the applicant has
applied for, the computer first determines if
the applicant has the minimum entry
requirements for the course.
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How Places are Allocated
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If the applicant meets the minimum entry
requirements for the course, the applicant’s
points are calculated for this course
choice.
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All eligible applicants are then placed in a
list, in order of academic merit, for each
course that they applied for.
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How Places are Allocated
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The admissions officers of the Higher
Education Institutions tell CAO how many
places are to be offered on each course
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CAO then makes offers to the required
number of applicants on each course starting
with the applicant with the highest points and
working down until enough places have been
offered.
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How Places are Allocated
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Should some applicants decline to accept their
offers these places become available in the next
round of offers. They will be offered to the next
applicants on the order of merit list.
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These are the applicants for CK101 Arts in UCC.
The examination results have not yet been released, so
these applicants are in no particular order.
We are going to trace the progress of the applicant
marked in red.
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Applicants are placed in a queue for each course they
applied for, their position in the queue is determined by
their points. The applicant with the highest points is placed
at the top of the queue. The points achieved by the
applicant in red determines his position in the queue for
each course he applied to.
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The applicants marked in green have enough points to be
offered places.
The applicant marked in red has enough points for his
second preference.
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The applicant in red is offered his second preference, the
highest preference course that he has enough points for,
and he will now disappear from the queue in all his lower
choices. Placing DN201 as his second preference meant
that he would prefer to receive an offer on DN201 than
on any other course except CK101 - which is his first
preference.
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Having been offered his second preference he must now
decide to accept it or to do nothing. If he does not accept
the offer the place will be offered to another applicant in the
next round of offers.
Regardless of whether he accepts or not he will still be
considered for an offer on his first preference if a place
becomes available. In the second round, one more offer was
made on CK101 and our applicant is now at the top of the
queue.
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In the third round of offers two more offers are made on
CK101 and our applicant, who was at the top of the queue, now
receives an offer.
He may do nothing and remain in DN201 or he may accept the
offer and begin in CK101.
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Genuine Order of Preference
• You do not need to guess what the points are
going to be for the courses you are interested
in.
• Simply list your courses in genuine order of
preference from the highest preference 1, to
the lowest preference 10.
• If you are entitled to an offer, you will be
offered the highest preference that you are
entitled to.
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College Courses (UCC)
Required points
2011
2010
Arts
BIS (Business Information Systems)
Sports Studies and Physical
Education
345
400
350
380
480*
470
Commerce
Law
Law and French
Electrical and Electronic Engineering
Energy Engineering
Architecture/CIT
Science (Biological and Chemical)
Medicine
Dentistry
Food Marketing and Entrepreneurship
425
480*
535
405
485
420
400
#734
570*
420
430
485
490
405
495
445
375
#725
570*
390
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HPAT (Health Professions Admission Test)
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Registration deadline – Mon 18th Jan 2012
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Test Date – Sat 25 Feb 2012 (2 ½ hr exam)
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Results issued in late June 2012
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3 sections assessed (aptitude test) (total: 300 marks)
1
Logical reasoning and problem solving skills
2
Interpersonal Understanding
3
Verbal Reasoning
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Leaving Cert Pts plus HPAT combined = max score 860pts
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Min LC pts = 480 to max 560 (moderated thereafter up to 560)
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Scoring LC + HPat
•If you achieve 600 points in the LCE this will
become 560 adjusted LCE points and if you achieve
a score of 155 in the
HPAT-Ireland test, your overall score will be 715.
• Similarly if you achieve 540 points in the LCE, and
then get a HPAT-Ireland score of 175, your overall
score will be 715.
• Or if you achieve 480 points in the LCE and then
235 in HPAT-Ireland, your overall score will be 715.
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Useful Websites
www.cao.ie
 www.qualifax.ie
 Careersportal.ie
 www.careersdirections.ie
 www.studentfinance.ie
 www.accesscollege.ie
 www.fas.ie
 www.hpatireland.ie
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Info
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CAO Presentation available on school
website:
www.stfranciscollege-rochestown.ie
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Where are the jobs in
Ireland?
Thriving sectors presently in Ireland, 2011...
‐ ICT
‐ Pharmaceuticals
‐ Food & Drink
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Future Jobs ?
Expert group on future skills needs
Forfas report 2010
Sectoral skills – shortages identified by sector
 ICT
 Green economy
 Bio-pharma / pharmachem sector
 Food and beverage sector
 International financial services
 Medical devices
 Wholesale and retail
Cross sectoral enterprise/generic skill
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Mathematical proficiency, foreign language and foreign market understanding,
business acumen and enterprise
Current Occupational skills shortages
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ICT programmers, science professionals, engineering, sales and marketing,
transport and supply chain specialists, financial service
Let’s look at the industries
in Ireland:
8 of the top 10 pharmaceutical companies.
 9 out of the top 10 global ICT companies.
 5 of the top global software companies.
 15 out of the top 25 medical devices
companies.
 More than 50% of the worlds leading financial
services
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ICT Companies based in Ireland
Who is recruiting UCC Graduates?
ICT Sector in Ireland
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Tech sector is thriving
􀂃approx 70 jobs announced every week since the
start of the year
􀂃Currently there are roughly 3,500 vacancies in
the sector (this needs to be addressed as there is
clearly a skills shortage)
􀂃Not just tech jobs but jobs in marketing, sales,
product management, project management,
multilingual roles, business analytics etc.
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Pharma facts
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25,300 people are employed in the Irish
PharmaChemicalsector,
46% of which are third-level graduates. 25% of all PhD
researchers in Irish industry are employed in the
sector.
􀂃In 2010 the Irish pharmaceutical and chemical sector
exported products to the value of 50.8 billion
􀂃Ireland’s pharmaceutical exports are the 7th largest
in the world.
􀂃Ireland is the largest net exporter of pharmaceuticals
in the world
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Food & Drink Industry-The future
is bright
€24bn turnover
600 companies
46,000 and 60,000 indirect employees
Utilises 90% of agricultural output
Exports €8.9bn to 120 countries
Largest net exporter of beef, lamb and dairy
ingredients in the EU
 80% of dairy and 90% of beef exported and produces
 20% of the global supply of infant formula
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The world will have to produce 70% more
food to feed another 2.3bn people by 2050
(UN Food and Agriculture Organisation)
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Tomorrow’s jobs
“Many of the jobs in 2015 and
most of the jobs in 2030
do not currently exist
and cannot be foreseen yet.”
Expert Group on New Skills for New Jobs – report prepared for the European
Commission (February 2010
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