Transcript International Dual-Degree Programs: Structural Options

International Dual-Degree Programs:
Structural Models & Considerations
Lesley Davis
Assistant Dean for International Programs
Indiana University Maurer School of Law
Maurer Programs
Semester Exchange:
Paris II
Bucerius
ESADE
Warsaw
Auckland
University of Hong Kong
Peking U. School of Transnational
Law
Zhejiang University
CUPL
FGV Rio & Sao Paulo
Jindal Global Law School
Dual Degree:
JD-LLB (Jindal)
LLM-Cert (Oxford Internet Inst.)
JD-MBA (SKKU)
JD/LLM/PhD-LLM (Korean
partners)
Summer:
Externship program in India,
Brazil, Korea, China
USD summer institute programs
From THE FACULTY LOUNGE, Dan Filler
April 01, 2012
Stanford To Establish Law Campus On Roosevelt Island
As many of you know, in December, Stanford University pulled out of the competition to
develop a new research campus on New York City's Roosevelt Island. A consortium between
Cornell University and Israel's Technion won the day. But it turns out there was more to that
story than met the eye.
Tomorrow, Stanford is set to announce that it will open a new law school campus on
Roosevelt Island. The school's plan is to build a 280,000 foot law school that will house
approximately 450 JD students and another 200 international graduate law students. In
addition, Stanford will also offer an L.L.B. program which will allow many European
students to move directly into practice in their home countries.
While this plan has been developed in secrecy, it also explains why Stanford was so quick to
exit the earlier competition for a place on Roosevelt Island. The law school will cost literally
billions less to build than the research center. And it also turns out that the three
universities will achieve an economy of scale, developing a single student center, and
athletic complex on the island.
The law school is apparently part of a broader plan to expand Stanford's footprint into
Europe, Africa, the Middle East and, ultimately, Palau.
Structural Considerations
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Exchange or one-way
Extent of credit sharing
Bar eligibility
ABA issues
Costs and financial aid
School-specific considerations
Exchange or one-way
• If exchanging students, is there a financial or
other need to maintain strict parity, and are there
sufficient students from each side to do so?
• Are you exchanging, sending or receiving
students from comparable degree programs or
different degree levels (e.g., JD for LLM)?
• If one-way, is there sufficient mutual benefit to
sustain the program (e.g., financial, credit,
credential)?
Extent of Credit Sharing
• Is there a limited number of credits each side
can or is willing to count towards its own
degree?
• Why should we care whether the foreign
partner can count credits from our degree?
• May any home degree required credits be
fulfilled abroad?
• Will the dual degree require additional time?
Bar Eligibility
• Will the program render US students eligible
to sit for the foreign bar and/or practice in the
foreign jurisdiction? How important is this?
• Will foreign participants be eligible to sit for
any US bars?
• Future of bar eligibility in states that don’t
currently have rules about foreign legal
education.
ABA Issues
• No more than 1/3 of JD degree may be earned
abroad
• LLM degree model rules/NY rules (number of
credits, no online courses, two full semesters,
no credit for courses done abroad)
• LSAT requirement vs. reporting requirement
• 700 minutes
• Etc…
Costs & Financial Aid
• Which school will students pay for the
semester(s) abroad?
• Will the total cost for the dual degree be greater
than, less than or equal to the cost of the single
degree?
• To what extent will scholarships or federal
financial aid travel with the student?
• Will the host school offer any special scholarship
funding for program participants?
• Will the university recognize the tuition “wash”
when equal numbers are exchanged?
School-Specific Considerations
• Are we “giving away” too much in terms of
credits (e.g., in a 2+2 program)?
• Will participants be able to get a degree for
less money than other students/home country
students?
• How much control do home school
educational policy committees want to exert
over foreign curriculum (either course
offerings or credit counting)?
School-Specific Considerations
• Does the home university have policies on
offshore or cross-border programs that need
to be followed?
• Does the home university have study abroad
policies that affect the proposed international
dual-degree?
• Does the faculty support the program or the
presence of the incoming exchange students?
US JDforeign LLM
foreign LLMUS LLM
Example: Vermont Law School’s JD-Master 1/Master 2 with
Cergy-Pontoise
• Two-way exchange, but different degrees (incoming
students are Master’s students and complete LLM, not JD).
• One year of credit counted toward JD for M1. One
additional year required for M2. French students do not
receive credit toward home degree for LLM.
• Outgoing students may fulfill eligibility requirements for
French bar; incoming students eligible for NY, DC, etc. bars
after LLM.
• Students do not pay any more for both degrees than they
would pay for JD or M1/M2.
Foreign JDUS LLM
Example: Sunkyunkwan University JD/LLM/PhD
with “mid-stream” Maurer LLM
• One-way (incoming)
• NYB cannot count credits not taken in US toward
LLM so no sharing even with English SKKU credits.
• SKKU students cannot count full 24 cr. toward JD
(Ministry of Ed rule). Does not prolong Korean JD.
• Eligible for NY bar after completion of both
degrees (if no degree in law yet)
• We offer ~20% tuition discount (“partner” rate)
US JD  foreign LLB
foreign LLB  US JD
Example: Maurer and Jindal Global Law School JDLLB
• Equal exchange at same degree level (postbachelor’s)—US JD & Indian LLB or BA/LLB.
• 2 + 2 degree (home degree relies on completion
of foreign degree); financial aid applies.
• Tuition paid to school of enrollment.
• Indian students eligible for any US bar
• US students not eligible for Indian bar (Indian
legal services market still closed)
US LLM  foreign certificate
Example: Maurer LLM (IP/Cybersecurity)/Oxford Internet
Institute Certificate
• Joint program resulting in two credentials (one degree
and one certificate)
• Each institution counting one semester of work from
the other
• Maurer semester tuition rate paid to each institution
• US federal aid can apply to Oxford semester for US
citizens
• No NY bar eligibility because LLM not two semesters in
US
US JD  foreign MBA
Example: Maurer JD-SKKU MBA
• Exchange; 3 years total (IU students spend 2nd
year at SKKU)
• One year of credit counted by each program
• Tuition paid to host school
• Challenges on incoming side
• SKKU students eligible for any US bar
Expanding Opportunities
• What else can you do with your existing
partners? (e.g., Paris II exchange  LLM; JGU
assistance with summer externships)
• What opportunities are possible through
existing university partners (e.g., Warsaw U.
exchange; ZJU partnership)?
• Can you take advantage of calendar
differences (e.g., southern hemisphere/later
spring semester)?