Transcript Observation des prix de l’industrie

SPPI on water supply and sewerage in France
27th Voorburg Group
Warsaw, Poland
Denis Gac, Insee (France)
head of SPPI pole
4th Oct 2012
Classifications
Section E - WATER SUPPLY; SEWERAGE, WASTE MANAGEMENT AND
REMEDIATION SERVICES
ACTIVITIES (NACE)
 36
 37
Water collection, treatment and supply
Sewerage
PRODUCTS (CPA 2008)
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36.00.11
36.00.12
36.00.20
36.00.30
37.00.11
37.00.12
37.00.20
drinking water
non-drinking water
treatment and distribution services of water through mains
trade services of water through mains
sewage removal and treatment services
treatment servics of cesspools and septic tanks
sewage sludge
=> Goods (?) and Services
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4th Oct 2012
Price determining variables
Which kind of management? (local authorities
are supposed to have lower prices)
 BCG(1) « when it is private, it is more expensive, but it should also be
noted that when the operating conditions are complex, communities
entrust the management to private »
 « it is not a difference related to the management mode, but related
to the difficulty of service »
 « relations with consumers are better when private operators »
 « better information when private operators »
 SUEZ: « water consumption lowers by an average of 1.2 to 1.3% per
year. As investments remain constant and that the required quality is
the same, the price of water can not decrease ! »
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(1) BCG: Boston Consulting Group
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Price determining variables
Big contracts to be re-negociated
Lyon-Veolia :
–16% in 2008
St Etienne –Veolia : –23% in 2009
Ile de France –Veolia :–20% in 2010
Nantes –Sita+Veolia :-30% in 2001
Paris: back to public : no decr. in 2009
Ground
water
mixed
Surface
water
Source : IFEN 2007 : French Environmental Institute
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4th Oct 2012
Price determining variables
Prices are 29%
higher when
delegation
water price
communal
per m3 organisation
public management 2,19 €/m3
mixed
2,60 €/m3
delegation
2,93€/m3
total
2,59 €/m3
intercommunal
organisation
2,85 €/m3
3,04 €/m3
3,44 €/m3
3,19 €/m3
TOTAL
2,54 €/m3
2,97 €/m3
3,28 €/m3
3,01 €/m3
3,5
3
2,5
2
1,5
1
0,5
intercommunal organisation
0
communal organisation
public
management
mixed
delegation
Source : IFEN 2007 : French Environmental Institute
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4th Oct 2012
Price determining variables
Investments needed? (water pays for water)
Which accessibility to water ?
Ground water or surface water?
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4th Oct 2012
Price determining variables
Origin of water and price of drinking water:
Ground
water
mixed
Surface
water
Source : IFEN-SCEES 2007 : French Environmental Institute
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Price determining variables
Technical issues on:
♦
♦
♦
♦
Which treatments required? (EU regulations)
Water networks (many losses?)
Sewage networks (single pipe, divisive pipes)?
Individual sewerage systems?
♦
♦
Many purification plants needed?
Sewerage systems ( primary, secondary, tertiary)?
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4th Oct 2012
Price determining variables
Kind of treatment of waste water and price of sewerage:
Primary
treatment only
Some secondary
treatment for part
of waste water
Some tertiary
treatment for part
of waste water
Source : IFEN-SCEES 2007 : French Environmental Institute
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4th Oct 2012
Current French PPI
Insee compiles and disseminates now 4 price indices on water and sewerage:
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PPI- at purchaser price (base 2005) CPF 36.00 – Water except sales to households –
PPI- at purchaser price (base 2005) CPF 36.00 – Water
Aggregation of PPI and CPI
CPI- ( Base 1998) - classification COICOP : 01.2.2.1 – Water
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CPI- ( Base 1998) - classification COICOP : 04.4.1.3 – Sewerage
150
140
130
120
PPI at purchaser price
except households :36.00
PPI at purchaser price
:36.00
110
CPI water
100
CPI sewerage
1
1
12
-
20
1
11
-
20
1
10
-
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20
1
09
-
20
1
08
-
20
1
07
-
20
1
06
-
20
1
05
-
20
1
04
-
20
1
03
-
20
1
02
-
20
1
01
-
20
20
00
-
90
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Toward French SPPI (1)
Goal in 2009-2010:
to calculate by the same survey, together, 4 indices
 a 36.00 PPI at basic price BtoAll (price of the activity)
 a 36.00 PPI at purchasing price BtoB (price of the product)
 a 37.00 PPI at basic price BtoAll (price of the activity)
 a 37.00 PPI at purchasing price BtoAll (price of the product)
Based on a « municipality » survey (and not on a
« company » survey as usual)
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4th Oct 2012
Toward French SPPI (2)
Advantages:
 Local authorities are often in charge of both water and sewerage, or
at least, services are neighbours.
 Idem for private operators.
 The bills are common for water and sewerage.
 We can select the biggest agglomerations where the major
industrial centers are.
 Possibility to track prices when the operators change (which
happen sometimes), if the scope of the contract does not change.
Drawbacks
 Reweighting is difficult , and still in progress
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4th Oct 2012
Toward French SPPI (3)
Method:
users
final consumers
= households
bill
final consumers
<> households
private operator
from CPI files
from survey
public authority
from CPI files
from survey
taxes
from CPI files
from survey
total
BtoC =CPI and
BtoB (15%)
BtoB at purchasing
price
intermediate
consumers
total
from survey (intra
consumption)
BtoALL
deflator at
basic
price
BtoB at purchasing price
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4th Oct 2012
Toward French SPPI (4)
Recruitment
survey:
(Goods and
Services)
36 00
to « Domestic and to
« Nonsimilar »
domestic »
subscribers »
(~ subscribers »
households)
To
other TOTAL
public
services and
water
operators
Sales of drinking water (invoice per m3)
Sales of non-drinking water (invoice per
m3)
New
connections
(in
case
of
delegations)
Water treatmlent services (invoice per
the service) out of the case of
delegation
37.00.11 a
Collection, removal, treatment of sewages
(with please breakdown of turnover according
to the process : )
primary
secondary,
tertiary
TOTAL collection, removal, treatment of
sewages
37.00.12
Emptying and cleaning of cesspools and
septic tanks
37.00.20 a
Sale of sewage sludge
(only if >0)
37.00.xx
Other services (please precise)
36 + 37
TOTAL (turnover relative to water)
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BtoC (+ 15% BtoB)
BtoB
BtoB
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Quality adjustment issues (1)
From a purchaser point of view:
the purchaser thinks he buys goods (volumes of
water): if the water keeps the same quality, no
quality adjustment is needed.
From a private operator point of view:
the private operator thinks he manages water
services and is remunerated by selling goods
(volumes of water) or services (harnessing,
treatment, delivery, evacuation,sanitization): if
pumped water becomes more and more polluted
and needs more treatments in order to provide
drinking water, he would think that his price
would deserve a quality adjustment.
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4th Oct 2012
Quality adjustments issues (2)
From a local authority point of view:
the local authority invests in mains, pumping
plants, sanitization plants, and, even more than
the private operator, manages water services for
the “fixed costs”, while the “variable costs” are
often invoiced by the private operator to the final
consumer. How could we measure the “quality”
of their production or their “price” indepedently
from the private operator in case of delegation
of public services?
By the way, we do not try to measure the price of
their activity…
27th Voorburg Group, Warsaw, Poland
4th Oct 2012
Quality adjustments issues (3)
Quality of water (if measured) is a component, but
perhaps not sufficient to assess a possible quality
adjustment in water supply (36).
Quality of private operators services is to be measured,
especially for water sewerage (37), but also partly for
water supply (36).
And what about the financial situation of local
authorities responsible for water services?
(a priori out of the scope of volume and price, and
anyway we have renounced to measure the price
of their activity)
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4th Oct 2012
Quality adjustments issues (4)
36 ONEMA performance indicators soon available on:
water quality : compliance rate of water with regard to…
water : networks (knowledge, losses…)
water : financial management
water : subscribers relationship
sewerage : subscribers relationship
sewerage : network quality
sewerage collection: compliance of the effluent collection …
sewerage purification: compliance of the cleaning equipments…
sewerage : rate of sludge evacuated by mains consistent with…
sewerage : financial management
Still to do: identify the indicators concerning the private
operators or water as a whole, imagine 2 or 4
synthetic indicators (36 and 37 x activity BtoAll and
product BtoB?), validate it with the professionals…
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4th Oct 2012
SPPI on water supply and sewerage in France
Thank you for your attention
Insee
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75675 Paris Cedex 14
www.insee.fr
Contact
M.Denis Gac
Tél. : (+ 33) 02 40 41 77 50
Courriel : [email protected]
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