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APMP/TCFF meeting
December 5 - 6, 2011
Kobe, Japan
Attendees List
Institute
Economy
Name
1
CMS/ITRI
Chinese Taipei
Chun-Min Su
2
KRISS
Korea
3
MASM
4
5
Institute
Economy
Name
8
NMIJ/AIST
Japan
Kar-Hooi Cheong
Yong Moon Choi
9
NMIJ/AIST
Japan
Takashi Shimada
Mongolia
Oyungerel Uvgunkhuu
10
NMIJ/AIST
Japan
Toshihiro Morioka
NIM
China
Tao Meng
11
NMIJ/AIST
Japan
Yoshiya Terao
NISIT
Papua New Guinea
Kolario Deregi
12
NPLI
India
Shiv Kumar Jaiswal
Singapore
Jian Wu
13
VMI
Vietnam
Thai Hong Nguyen
Australia
John Man
14
VNIIM
Russia
Konstantin Popov
6 NMC-A*STAR
7
NMIA
PC Connection
• SSID: apmp2011
• Password: kobe1
APMP new website
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http://www.apmpweb.org/
Click “TCFF” beneath “Technical Committee”
Click “TCFF meeting” beneath “TCFF documents (open)”
Click “2011 meeting in Kobe, Japan”
Adoption of Agenda
5. Chair's Report
Term of TCFF Chair
From GA Hanoi
Singapore
Beijing
Jeju
New Delhi
Sydney
Jakarta
Kuala Lumpur
Pattaya
Kobe
Wellington
From
2003.12
2004.1
2005.9
2006.12
2007.11
2008.11
2009.12
2010. 11
2011. 12
2012. 11
AUV
EM
2002.11
Sojun Sato, NMIJ, JP
Yasuhiko Sakamoto,
NMIJ, JP
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PR
QM
Noel Bignell, NMIA, AU
So Hun Young, KRISS, KR
Samyong Woo, KRISS, KR
Terubumi SAITO, NMIJ,
JP
Yu Yadong, NIM, CN
Yoshiya Terao, NMIJ, JP
Siew Leng Tan, A*STAR, SG
A.K.Bandyopadhyay, NPLI, IN
Xu Gan, SPRING, SG
Seung Kwan Kim, KRISS, KR
Kenji Kato, NMIJ, JP
Della Sin, GL, KR
Ajchara Charensook, NIMT, TH
David Webb, ARPANSA, AU
Yoshio Hino, NMIJ, JP
Michito Imae, CRL/NMIJ, JP
Gun-Woong Bahng, KRISS, KR
Ngo Hui Van, VMI
Pian Totarong, NIMT
Mr. Irfan Yeoh, SIRIM, Malaysia
Ming-Chen Yuan, INER, TW
Mark Ballico, NMIA, AU
WGMM
DEC
Jiunn-Haur Shaw,
CMS/ITRI, TW
Singha,NPLI
, IN
Gwo-Sheng Peng, CMS/ITRI, TW
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Ilya Budovsky, NMIA, AU
Kyung-Am Park, KRISS, KR
QS
RI
Takashi Usuda, NMIJ, JP
Yang Sup Song, KRISS, KR
FF
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Prem Narang, NMIA, AU
Mr. Yang Yuandi, NIM, China
Juntaro Ishii, NMIJ, JP
Ho Seong Lee, KRISS,
KR
Mizuhiko Hosokawai, NMIJ, JP
Tetsuya Baba, NMIJ, JP
Vikram Kumar, NPLI
Dr. Seong Jai Cho, KRISS, Korea
Dr. Rashid, SIRIM-Berhad, Maylasia, MY
Term of TCFF Chair
Name
NMI
Meeting Venue (Year)
Masaki Takamoto
NMIJ, Japan
Tsukuba (2002)
Singapore (2003)
Beijin(2004)
Kyung-Am Park
KRISS, Korea
Jeju(2005)
New Delhi(2006)
Sydney(2007)
Jakarta(2008)
Jiunn-Haur Shaw
CMS/ITRI,
Taiwan
Kuala Lumpur(2009)
Pattaya(2010)
Yoshiya Terao
NMIJ, Japan
Kobe(2011)
Wellington(2012)
Taipei?(2013)
5. Chair's Report
-- Recent TCFF Activities --
CMCs from APMP/TCFF(1)
• NMIJ CMCs
2010 Aug. 8: submitted to TCFF
Nov. 13: approved by TCFF
Nov. 30: approved by TCQS
Dec. 8: posted at JCRB website for inter-regional review
APMP.M.27.2010
2011 Mar. 31: inter-regional review completed
Apr. 4: published in KCDB
CMCs from APMP/TCFF(2)
• KRISS CMCs
2010 Oct. 21: submitted to TCFF
Nov. 30: approved by TCFF
2011 Jan. 13: CMC table and other documents sent to TCQS
May 20: approved by TCQS
May 26: posted at JCRB website for inter-regional review
APMP.M.28.2011
November 25:disapproved by EURAMET
CMCs from APMP/TCFF(3)
• VMI CMCs
2011 Jul. 11: submitted to TCFF and TCQS
Aug. 15: approved by TCFF
Sep. 12: TCFF chair sent reminder to TCQS chair
Oct. 26: posted at JCRB website for inter-regional review
without TCQS review result
APMP.M.30.2011
Inter-regional review in progress
CMCs from APMP/TCFF(4)
• A*STAR CMCs
2011 Jun. 28: submitted to TCQS
Sep. 15: submitted to TCFF
TCFF review and TCQS review in progress
CMC in KCDB
Economy
NMI
Number of entries
Fluid Flow
Viscosity
Singapore A*STAR
2
0
Chinese
Taipei
CMS
21
0
Korea
KRISS
10
0
China
NIM
0
15
Japan
NMIJ
39
28
CMCs from other RMOs(1)
• EURAMET.M.21.2011
FORCE (Denmark), IPQ-LCM (Portuguese), CEM (Spain),
EIM (Greece)
2011 Apr. 24: Posted at JCRB website
May 26: Comments sent from APMP/TCFF
Sep 16: Revised CMC uploaded by EURAMET
Oct 19: Approved by APMP/TCFF
Nov 15: Published in the KCDB
CMCs from other RMOs(2)
• SIM.M.17.2011 INTI (Argentina)
2011 June. 14: Posted at JCRB website
Aug. 14: Comments sent from
APMP/TCFF
Waiting for response from INTI
CMCs from other RMOs(3)
• SIM.M.18.2011→SIM.M.21.2011 NIST (USA)
2011 Jun. 14: Posted at JCRB website
QS documents were missing
Jul. 8: Revised documents sent from SIM via e-mail
APMP/TCFF started to review
Aug. 4: Comments from APMP/TCFF were sent to SIM via
e-mail due to a technical problem of the JCRB web
site.
Oct. 4: Revised documents sent via e-mail from NIST
Nov. 10: SIM.M.18.2011 was transferred to SIM.M.21.2011
due to a technical problem.
Nov. 15: APMP/TCFF approved the CMC
Dec. 01: Published in the KCDB
Recently published APMP key
Comparisons
APMP.M.FF-K1
APMP.M.FF-K4
APMP.M.FF-K6
Mesurerand
Water Flow
Liquid Volume
Low Pressure
Gas Flow
Pilot
KRISS
NMIA
NMIJ
Distribution of
Draft B
2010 Dec. 22
2010 July 16
2010 Sep. 3
Submitted to
CCM/WGFF
2011 Jan. 6
2010 Oct. 19
2010 Oct. 19
Final report to
BIPM
2011 Jan. 14
2010 Oct. ?
2010 Nov. 23
Published in
KCDB
2011 Jan. 21
2011 Jan. 18
2011 Jan. 17
APMP/TCFF Key Comparisons
Comparison ID Measurand
Pilot
Participants
APMP.M.FF-K1 Water Flow
KRISS
NMIJ, CMS, VMI,
NIM,VNIIM, KRISS
APMP.M.FF-K2 Hydrocarbon Flow
CMS
APMP.M.FF-K3 Air Speed
NMIJ
APMP.M.FF-K4 Liquid Volume
NMIA
APMP.M.FF-K5 High Pressure Gas Flow KRISS
APMP.M.FF-K6 Low Pressure Gas Flow NMIJ
APMP.M.FF-K2a Hydrocarbon Flow
Current status
published in KCDB on Jan. 21,
2011
Draft B under review by
CMS, VMI
APMP/TCFF
CMS, NIST, KRISS, VNIIM, published in KCDB on July
A*Star, NMIJ
30th, 2010
CENAM, SCL, KRISS, NIM,
published in KCDB on Jan. 18,
NMISA, NMIT, NMIJ,
2011
NPSL, VMI, MUSSD, NMIA
Combined APMP & CCM.FFKRISS, CMS
K5b, Approved for
equivalence and published
KRISS, NIM, CMS, A-Star, published in KCDB on Jan. 17,
NIMT, NMIA, VMI, NMIJ 2011
NMIJ CMS, NMIA, NMIJ
Planned
All of the published comparisons have been linked to the relevant CCM KC.
5. Chair's Report
-- Report of the last WGFF meeting -Please see;
•03_WGFF_report.ppt
•03a Takamoto Summary of WGFF Resolutions 2010.pdf
•03b Terao Air Speed Traceability 2010.pdf
5. Chair's Report
-- Report of the last TC Chair meeting -• TC Chair meeting: Twice a year, with GA
and Mid-year Meeting
• 2011 APMP Mid-year Meetings was held
from June 27th to July 1st,
at Chingis Khaan Hotel in Ulaan Baatar,
Mongolia, hosted by MASM
• Last TC Chair meeting was held on
Dec.4, 2011 in Kobe.
5. Chair's Report
-- Report of the last TC Chair meeting -Agenda of last TCC meeting
1. CMC review and submission process
2. Outcomes of JCRB Meeting and Brainstorming Session in
September (Ilya)
3. APMP Web Site
4. TC and TC Chairs Meetings
5. TC Initiatives
6. Integration of Nanometrology in CC/TC Structure
7. Follow-up from Strategic Planning and Roadmapping
Workshop in Mongolia
8. DEC Issues
9. Supplementary comparisons involving non-members of CGPM
10. Guide on Comparisons for Developing Economies
11. Use of Carnets for Comparisons
12. TCTF Experiences
13. Reports to GA and Executive
14. Other Business
6. Reports on Recent Activities by
Member NMIs
7. APMP Key Comparisons
8. APMP TC Initiative
9. Discussion on CMCs and
Related Matters
Overview of CCM/WGFF resolutions
Please see;
•03a Takamoto Summary of WGFF Resolutions 2010.pdf
•03b Terao Air Speed Traceability 2010.pdf
TCFF CMC review team
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Water Flow:
Hydrocarbon Flow:
Low Pressure Gas Flow:
High Pressure Gas Flow:
Air Speed:
Volume:
KRISS, NMIJ
CMS, NMIJ
NMIJ, NIM
KRISS, CMS
NMIJ, CMS
NMIA, NMIJ
Possible candidates for peerreviewer
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J-H. Shaw (CMS/ITRI)
J-S. Paik (KRISS)
K-A. Park (KRISS)
H-M. Choi (KRISS)
Y. Terao (NMIJ)
M. Ishibashi (NMIJ)
Format for Technical Peer Approval
Please see;
•04_APMP_QS_2_V20_Final.pdf
JCRB website for inter-regional CMC
review
http://www.bipm.org/JCRBCMCs/
Document list for MRA activities
Please see;
•05_Document_List.xls
•06_MRA_Document_Package_TCFF2011.zip
10. Next Meeting
• APMP2012: Wellington, New Zealand, 25 – 30 November
• TCFF can meet at somewhere else in October or November,
if a TCFF member would like to host the TCFF meeting.
11. Other Issues
• New APMP web site
 How to enroll as a new member
 Our documents should be open or
restricted for public access?
• Election of Vice-Chair
• Membership of TCFF
12. Closing