Transcript Tournament Selection Method

NYSBCF
Tournament
Selection Process
Presented by Chris Loftus and the T.A.B.
Question
What system can be used to ensure that
a statewide tournament circuit best takes
in to account population distribution,
geographic balance, safety, and fishery
diversity while still providing the top
fishing opportunities NY has to offer?
Proposal
• Simple and fair method for tournament
rotation
• Effective process to rate fisheries on a
scale of when we really want to fish them
Something to consider
• This is a state level circuit. With that
comes:
– Higher level of competition
– More focus on ability to locate fish
– Increased need for versatility
– Greater commitment of time and expense
Unique Aspects of New York
• Large in size
• Triangular or “T” shape
• Vast number of world class fisheries
Demographics of NYSBCF
• State can be divided into 6 unique
sections each having a unique
“personality”
• Membership density is not evenly spread
• Fishery density does not follow
population density
NORTH
NORTHCOUNTRY
COUNTRY
44CLUBS
CLUBS
55
MEMBERS
55 MEMBERS
4.7%
4.7%
ROCHESTER
ROCHESTERAREA
AREA
66CLUBS
CLUBS
78
MEMBERS
78 MEMBERS
6.7%
6.7%
ALBANY
ALBANYAREA
AREA
10
Clubs
10 Clubs
172
172Members
Members
14.8%
14.8%
CENTRAL
CENTRAL
33Clubs
Clubs
246 Members
246 Members
21.2%
21.2%
BUFFALO
BUFFALOAREA
AREA
77Clubs
Clubs
132
Members
132 Members
11.7%
11.7%
FASTEST GROWING AREAS SINCE 2000
NY
NYMETRO
METRO
18
CLUBS
18 CLUBS
419
419MEMBERS
MEMBERS
36.1
36.1%
%
Fishery Locations
• State can easily be divided into 4
sections
• Each section having 2-5 viable
tournament locations
• Viability being considered 10,000+ acres
or 30+ linear miles
Club Team Location Selection
• Based on Geographic Rotation
• 4 Year Rotation
– Rochester/Buffalo Area
– Albany/Metro
– North Country
– Syracuse Area
Point Tournament Selection
• One from each of the following:
– Albany/Metro
– Syracuse Area
– Rochester/Buffalo Area
• Remaining tournament from rotation of
Albany/Metro, Syracuse Area, and North
Country
North
NorthChamplain
Champlain
St.
St.Lawrence
Lawrence& Ontario
South
SouthChamplain
Champlain
Sodus
Sodus//Ontario
Ontario
Oneida
Oneida
Canandaigua
Canandaigua
Niagara
Niagara//Erie
Erie
Seneca
SenecaLake
Lake
Lake
LakeGeorge
George
Sacandaga
Sacandaga
Cayuga
Cayuga
Mohawk
Mohawk
Keuka
KeukaLake
Lake
Chautauqua
ChautauquaLake
Lake
Hudson
HudsonRiver
River
Selection Matrix
• Process to evaluate fisheries based on:
– Fishery Quality
– Location to population density
– Safety (Big Water - Weather Issue)
Slot 1
Slot 2
Slot 3
Slot 4
Fishery Quality
60%
50%
45%
35%
Location to Anglers
30%
40%
45%
35%
Safety
10%
10%
10%
30%
1st Tournament
Cayuga
St. Lawrence (Clayton)
Champlain (Chazy)
Chataqua
Erie
Lower Lake Champlain
Lake Geoge
Onieda
Keuka
Ontario (Sodus)
Seneca
St. Lawrence (Ogdensburg)
Great Sacandaga
Mohawk
Hudson
Canandaigua
Fishing Rating Location Weather Threat Overall Rating
5
4
3
4.7
5
3
3
4.6
5
3
2
4.5
5
1
4
4.5
5
1
1
4.2
4
5
4
4.1
4
5
4
4.1
4
4
2
3.8
4
3
3
3.8
4
3
2
3.7
4
3
2
3.7
4
2
3
3.7
3
5
3
3.2
2
5
5
2.6
2
5
4
2.5
2
3
4
2.3
2nd Tournament
Lower Lake Champlain
Cayuga
Onieda
Hudson
St. Lawrence (Clayton)
Great Sacandaga
Mohawk
Ontario (Sodus)
Champlain (Chazy)
Lake Geoge
Chataqua
St. Lawrence (Ogdensburg)
Keuka
Seneca
Canandaigua
Erie
Fishing Rating Location Weather Threat Overall Rating
5
5
4
4.9
5
4
3
4.4
5
4
2
4.3
3
5
4
3.9
4
3
3
3.5
2
5
3
3.3
1
5
5
3
3
3
2
2.9
3
3
2
2.9
1
5
4
2.9
4
1
4
2.8
3
2
3
2.6
2
3
3
2.5
2
3
2
2.4
1
3
4
2.1
2
1
1
1.5
3rd Tournament
Lower Lake Champlain
Cayuga
Onieda
Hudson
Mohawk
St. Lawrence (Clayton)
Champlain (Chazy)
Ontario (Sodus)
Lake Geoge
Great Sacandaga
Canandaigua
Keuka
Seneca
St. Lawrence (Ogdensburg)
Chataqua
Erie
Fishing Rating Location Weather Threat Overall Rating
4.7
5
4
4.75
4.7
4
3
4.2
4.7
4
2
4.1
2.3
5
4
3.7
2.0
5
5
3.65
4.3
3
3
3.6
4.3
3
2
3.5
3.7
3
2
3.2
1.0
5
4
3.1
1
5
3
3
2
3
4
2.65
2
3
3
2.55
2.0
3
2
2.45
2.3
2
3
2.25
3.0
1
4
2.2
3.0
1
1
1.9
4th Tournament
Mohawk
Hudson
Lower Lake Champlain
St. Lawrence (Clayton)
Lake Geoge
Champlain (Chazy)
Onieda
Cayuga
Canandaigua
Great Sacandaga
Keuka
Erie with Niagera option
Ontario (Sodus)
St. Lawrence (Ogdensburg)
Chataqua
Erie
Seneca
Fishing Rating Location Weather Threat Overall Rating
4
5
5
4.65
3
5
4
4
3
5
4
4
5
3
3
3.7
2
5
4
3.65
5
3
2
3.4
4
4
2
3.4
3
4
3
3.35
3
3
4
3.3
1
5
3
3
3
3
3
3
5
1
3
3
3
3
2
2.7
3
2
3
2.65
3
1
4
2.6
5
1
1
2.4
2
3
2
2.35
Key Issues not covered
• Logistics
• Sponsorship
• Calendar rotation
• Rotation with in a region
• These constraints are to be the final
considerations by the TD and TAB in
assembling the schedule
Have we answered the
Question?
Is this a system that can be used to
ensure the only true statewide
tournament circuit in NY best takes in to
account population distribution,
geographic balance, safety, and fishery
diversity while still providing the top
fishing opportunities NY has to offer?
Question and Answer
• Question - Last year more of the tournaments were near our
homes. Why are you favoring the east again with the
schedule?
• Answer - Some years the schedule may have more
tournaments close to your house and other years all
tournaments may be 2 hrs or more from your house. This
system will keep the schedule balanced, but with 15+
tournament sites in New York to chose from this circuit is not
likely to feel like the “home court” circuit. Remember this is
the next step up from local competition. This amount of
commitment may not be for everyone. We do hope that for
those looking to fish a true state level circuit we are providing
a system that is fair and a circuit that will be enjoyable and
rewarding
Question and Answer
• Question - I believe the Lower Niagara River should be added
to Western Region?
• Good question! We used the criteria of 10,000 acres or 30
linear miles as a minimum criteria. Although the lower
Niagara river does not meet the 30 mile criteria the western
basin of Lake Ontario does meet the 10,000 acre criteria.
This question will be brought back to the next TAB meeting to
be discussed in depth. We will than get back to you with
either a response that the lower Niagara river was added or
the reason why it was not.
Question and Answer
• Question - Why did you not include Black Lake in the North
Country Region.
• Answer - Fair question. The black and white answer would be
it did not meet the 10,000 acre criteria. At the same time we
need to realize that just as body weight is not the only
measure of a person’s health, surface acreage is not the only
measure of a fisheries ability to handle a 100 boat
tournament. More important is the amount of shallow flats.
Black lake does have lots of shallow flats. It also has lots of
fish holding aquatic vegetation. Therefore at the next TAB
meeting we will come back and look at adding Black Lake to
the list.
Question and Answer
• Question - I do not agree with a rating for one of the lakes.
How do I encourage the TAB to change this rating?
• Answer - Send your TAB rep and TD an e-mail. Provide
supporting information on why you think it should be changed.
If possible attach tournament results. Your e-mail will be
reviewed at the following TAB meeting. Your TAB rep will than
get back to you with information on the decision that was
made.
Question and Answer
• Question - How many suggestion are given to those of you on
the TAB.
• Answer - Speaking for the two TAB representative attending
the December meeting the answer would be, we received 3 emails over the last 12 months. In each of those 3 cases the
e-mails were brought to the TAB meeting. The proposals were
discussed in-depth. Decisions were made, then
communicated back to the sender. I wish we got more feed
back. I hope that all members realize that the message board
is not a method of communicating to the TAB. The correct
method is though direct e-mail or phone contact.
Question and Answer
• Question - Believe T2 and T3 in selection matrix need to be
adjusted. Fishery quality is a bigger part of my decision
process for the 2nd and 3rd tournament.
• Answer - After facilitating several discussions on this selection
matrix with various Federation members I would agree with
you. I will bring this point back to the other TAB member for
further discussion. This is one of the good things about using
a process like this to select tournaments. It provides a
method for the TAB to get feed back, make adjustments, than
monitor how the system performs.
Question and Answer
• Question - What does the tournament director do if they run
into issues with scheduling in a given region?
• Answer - They pick the tournament from the fringe of the
next region(s). For example if a tournament site in the
central regions backs out at the last minute, no other site in
that region is available, than Seneca would become the next
choice. This is because although in the western region it is on
the fringe of the central region.
Question and Answer
• Question - In your Seneca example would the Seneca choice
count against the central or the western region.
• Answer - Wow, good question. Honestly that is one detail
that we did not yet think through. Instead of trying to guess
what the groups consensus would be I would prefer that we
get back to you after our next TAB meeting.
Question and Answer
• Question - Can this method be used to better leverage
NYSBCF marketing and sponsorship $? Will it allow for more
long range planning?
• Answer - With out a doubt. This method will enable the TD to
look out several years in the scheduling process. Imagine
how your purchasing power increases when you can come to
a town with a contract for 3 tournaments over a 4 or 5 year
period.
Question and Answer
• Why tie the metro population with tournament locations as far
north as Ticonderoga?
• Answer - You are correct in your inference that this region is
the longest from point to point. The Metro Region makes up
a very big population of our angler base yet the only
tournament site large enough to meet the criteria for a state
level tournament is the Hudson. Instead of setting up a
situation where every tournament in a region was held on the
same location we decided to increase the size of the region to
include 5 bodies of water.
Question and Answer
• Open questions to the floor
• If you have any questions at this point
please feel free to contact your TAB
representative