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CAO
Information
Evening
Patricia Kennedy
Guidance Counsellor
CAO – General Info.
Centralised application
system for 43 Irish 3rd
level institutions,
including 7 fee-paying
colleges.
National Framework of Qualifications – 10
Levels
Selection of courses
Apply for up to 20 courses
Level 8 list – Choose 10
Honours Degrees
Level 6/7 list – Choose 10
Higher Certificates
Ordinary Degrees
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STAGE 1:
ENTRY REQUIREMENTS
These must be satisfied
before “points” are
considered
Level 6 & 7- Minimum Entry
Requirement
5 passes for most level 6 & level
7 courses although some
colleges e.g. DKIT require
Minimum 200 points
College Prospectuses need to be
consulted
Level 8 – Minimum Entry Requirement
•Different colleges have different entry
requirements
•NUI colleges (UCD, UCC, NUIM &
NUIG)require 2 HC3 and 4 Passes
•NUI colleges have a second language
requirement also- some exceptions e.g.
Science and engineering courses
•TCD requires 3 HC3 and 3 passes
CHECK PROSPECTUS
STAGE 2:
Faculty Requirements
Examples....
1. Pharmacy – TCD and UCC – HC3
in Chemistry and a 2nd science
subject
2.Physiotherapy (TCD) – HC3 in 2
science subjects or HC3 in 1 science
and higher maths
3.Primary Teaching – HC3 in Irish
If all Entry Requirements and
Faculty requirements (if needed)
are met applicant is deemed
‘Qualified’ to apply.
THEN
“Points” are considered.
STAGE 3:
POINTS ALLOCATION
Grade
Honours
Ordinary
Bonus Points
A1
A2
100
90
60
50
25
25
B1
B2
B3
85
80
75
45
40
35
25
25
25
C1
C2
C3
70
65
60
30
25
20
25
25
25
D1
D2
D3
55
50
45
15
10
5
25
25
25
(Hons Maths)
POINTS SYSTEM
Points are calculated from ONE sitting of the
Leaving Certificate only.
Points total is calculated from SIX best
subjects
New system of Bonus points are awarded for
Honours Mathematics as outlined earlier
(Maximum points now 625)
Entry Requirements can be satisfied over
more than one sitting of the Leaving Certificate
Example of Points Calculation
Irish HC2
English HD1
Maths HD2
French HB2
Biology HC1
Geography OA1
History HB3
65
55
50+25 = 75
80
70
60
75
Total = 425 (leave out 55 point
result)
RESTRICTED ENTRY COURSES
Some courses have Interviews/ Aptitude
tests/Portfolio/Auditions
Must apply to CAO by February 1st for
these courses
Medicine – HPAT test March 2nd
_ apply by January 20th
Check CAO handbook page 4
So – what is the best way to fill in the courses?
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Dream Courses
Realistic Courses
Banker Courses
Making an Application
•Applications can be made online or
by paper form.
•Always keep proof of sending
application. Online-print screen
receipt.
•Paper-obtain certificate of posting.
•Fill out both course lists
In genuine order of
Preference- not based on
Predictions of next years grades.
Application Dates and Fees
Paper Application
Fee
Dates
Normal
€40
1st February : 5.15pm
Late
€80
1 May : 5.15 pm
Online Application
Fee
Dates
Early Bird
€25
20th January : 5.15 pm
Normal
€40
1st February : 5.15pm
Late
€50
1st May : 5: 15 pm
Change of Mind
No Fee
Closes 1ST July : 5.15pm
After Making Application
Receive CAO number and Statement of Course Choices –
check this carefully.
Some students may be called for extra assessments.
Receive Statement of Application Record (Before the end of
May)– check details carefully.
Change of Mind facility becomes available – use sparingly
and carefully. (May 5th - 1st July)
Leaving Cert. Results are sent to CAO. (14th August)
Places are allocated and offered by post and online.(19th
August)
Students accept, reject or defer offered places.
Further rounds of offers are made until all course places are
filled.
Change of Mind
After 5th May you
can register a
change of course
choices –online,
Or
Use Change of
Mind Form.
This facility closes on 1st of July at
5.15pm
Print any changes
made
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Offer of Places
2 offers may be received: 1 from Level 8 list and 1 from
Level 6/7 list.
ONLY ONE OFFER MAY BE ACCEPTED
When you are offered one of your course preferences
on a list, automatically you will be excluded for
consideration from all courses below that
YOU MAY NOT MOVE DOWN IN YOUR ORDER OF
PREFERENCES
This is why it is so important to fill in form in your
Genuine Order of Preference
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Offer of places (contd.)
By way of example: Let’s say you have 350 points and
your course preference on the CAO form is:
1.Physics 2.Business 3.Arts 4. Tourism
Order of
Course
Preference
1st Round
Offer
Points
2nd Round 3rd Round
Offer
Offer
Points
Points
1
Physics
360
360
2
Business
360
350
3
Arts
350
345
4
Tourism
340
360
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Places Allocation
Students should think carefully
about not accepting one of these
offers, as they may not receive any
further offers.
Regardless of whether or not they
accept a course in round 1, they will
still be offered a higher preference
course in subsequent rounds if they
become entitled one.
Random Entry
Two or more candidates on the same points
Random number given to each application
Highest random Number gets the place
Shown by an *
For example 370* means not every candidate with
370 points got a place but everyone with 375 would
have
You are recommended to check with the college in
advance about their deferral conditions and
arrangements- some courses where deferral will be
difficult or impossible.
When offered place, contact admissions office of
university IMMEDIATELY – mark deferred entry- must
be done at least 2 days before REPLY DATE on offer
notice – decision will be made
Read the CAO Handbook about this – page 6.
Grants
Online application for grants 2012-2013 is available
now at
www.studentfinance.ie
Or
www.grantsonline.ie
Register> Complete Application > Decision
will follow
Applications will be accepted up to 31st of August
ACCESS SCHEMES: 1
•DARE – Disability Acess Route to
Education
•11 Colleges participating
•A quota of places offered to students
with disability on a reduced points basis.
•Must meet minimum entry
requirements
•See: www.accesscollege.ie for list of
disabilities eligible
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ACCESS SCHEMES
•HEAR – Higher Education Access
Route
For students from socio-economically
disadvantaged backgrounds.
•Quota of places offered on a reduced
points basis.
•Must meet minimum entry
requirements
•Must satisfy 3 of the 6 indicators
•See www.accesscollege.ie for further
information
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DARE and HEAR Schemes
Must apply to CAO by February 1st
Final completion of DARE/HEAR forms due on March
1st – indicate you wish to apply for the scheme
Final date for submission of supporting
documentation to arrive in CAO by 1st April
CHECK CAO BOOKLET PAGE 8 AND 9
CAO Timetable
5th November, 2012
> CAO Online facility opens at 12.00 noon
20th January, 2013
>Early Bird offer ends
1st February, 2013
› Closing date for receipt of normal applications
By 15th February, 2013
› Receive Statement of Course Choices
1st May, 2013
› Closing date for receipt of late applications
Before/By 31st May, 2013
› Receive Statement of Application Record
From 5th May, 2013
› Change of mind facility opens.
1st July, 2013
› Latest date for receipt of change of mind in CAO.
Late August, 2013 – 19th (expected date)
› First round of offers will commence.
Non- CAO Options
Apprenticeships
Defence Forces
Gardaí
Direct to Employment
Post Leaving Certificate Courses
FETAC links scheme
Apprenticeships
Find a suitable employer
Must be approved by Fás
Employer must register apprentice within two weeks of
starting
Meet the minimum educational requirements i.e. 5
Passes in Junior Cert.
Further Education Training Awards
Council
FETAC Links to Higher Education Institutes
Especially Important for Students who may not make
the CAO Points
Can begin with a PLC and end up with a Doctorate
Mature Entry to College (age 23 or over)
Post Leaving Certificate courses
(PLCs)
Courses in very high demand in 2010, 2011 and 2012.
Apply early to be called for interview in March
Contact each college/ check college websites to see
when they will start accepting your application.
Most PLC courses expect to fill all places in March
interviews
Requirements – usually 5 passes in your Leaving
Certificate. Please consult prospectus for 2013 entry
requirements.
Importance of Interview and some experience of the
career area applying for.
PLC courses continued
Remember that PLC courses do not provide an
automatic link to Higher Education
But a possible pathway to Higher Education through
FETAC Links Scheme
This is competitive and you must excel in your PLC
course to proceed further.
Other Alternatives
UCAS
Applying to colleges in UK and Northern Ireland
Closing Date 15th January except for Medicine,
Dentistry, Vet, Oxford & Cambridge closing date 15th
October
Some require aptitude tests.
Fees are applicable.
Must apply online using UCAS Apply
Personal statement is very important
All 6th Year students who are interested in applying
must have come forward to Guidance Counsellor by
now.
Destination Survey 2012
70
60
50
40
30
20
10
0
Level 8
Level 7
Level 6
Level 5
Deferred
Repeat
Working
Abroad
Institutions of choice 2012
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20
15
10
5
0
Others (1 Student) = NUIG, Marino Institute of Ed,
All Hallows, Inchicore College of Further Ed Ballsbridge,
Ballyfermot, Killester
Facts
•60% of employers seek graduates of
any discipline
•Quality of degree is far more
important than the subjects
•It is better to excel in a subject not in
great demand than to be average in one
that is.
DATES OF INTEREST
Monday 12th November – 6th Year PTM
January 20th -CAO online‘Early Bird’ – €25
February 1st - CAO Deadline
January 28th – February 8th– Mocks
February 26th – Mock Interviews
June – Leaving Cert. begins
August 14th - Results
August 19th - First Round offers
Who to talk to?
Relatives
Past pupils
Admissions/Academic staff of
colleges
• Guidance Counsellor
Interest Inventories / Guidance
interviews
Access to sources of information
Appointments for parents
Useful Resources
Internet
Qualifax – www.qualifax.ie Irish courses database
CAO – www.cao.ie Contains links to course
websites
Career Directions – www.careerdirections.ie
Careers Portal – www.careersportal.ie
Grants – www.studentfinance.ie
College websites (Addresses in CAO Handbook)
College Prospectuses- 2013 Entry
CAO Handbook 2013
Newspapers- Irish Times, Independent
Internet
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Reminders
It is the applicants responsibility to………
Research thoroughly all the courses
for which she is making an
application.
Be au fait with all aspects of the
application system used (CAO) for
these courses i.e. procedures, dates,
fees, rules etc
Reminders Contd.
Homework and Study
The recommended amount of time spent by a 6th Year
student doing homework and study should be:
3 ½ hours per night six times per
week, i.e. 21 hours per week.
The World is your Oyster
Aim high
Match the goal with the necessary
work
Never too late
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LIFELONG LEARNING
The journey is only beginning……..
Thank You
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